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  • Jan 12

    Bottom line: You will use the drug for yourself? In other words, you will be practicing medicine without a license?

  • Dec 26 '17

    Thread moved to Travel Nursing forum.

    Welcome to the site.

  • Dec 26 '17

    Thread moved to Travel Nursing forum.

    Welcome to the site.

  • Dec 10 '17

    Same song, second verse.

    I actually wanted to be a Nurse growing up and did just that right after High School.

    And, from the get-go, knew that I had chosen the wrong profession.

    Marriage, children, zero support from spouse/family.

    Years go by ...

    I am an exceptional NP, have paved roads for those coming after me, have brought many a babe into this world, and am a doggone good diagnostician.

    But, if I had it to do again, knowing exactly what I know now, I would be retiring as a Physician.

    Still, in saying all of this, at this stage of my life, I can say ... no regrets.

  • Dec 5 '17

    Thread moved to Nurses in Recovery forum for best response.

  • Nov 19 '17


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  • Nov 16 '17

    Thread moved to School Nurses forum.

  • Nov 16 '17

    Thread moved to School Nurses forum.

  • Nov 1 '17

    Quote from emmalou
    i am returning my renewal application this week (8/2005) for rn to ohio bon. question on app asks if i have ever been denie a professional liscense in another state. the fact is, i applied for an rn license in az. while there, i failed a pre-employement drug screen and self reported it to the azbn, long story short, i was denied. however, i returned to my home state of ohio, notified the azbn in febuary that i was not practicing nursing there and gave my new addrdess. i see from their online verification system that my licensed was denied in march, they said they had no record of me changing my address with them. well, i'm not sure what my question is. i will tell the ohio bon about my licensure denial, will they renew my license? the evidence from az does not look good, and i do not want to send this to the board in ohio. the directions on the ohio renewal license state to send a written summary and documents from the acting body. any suggestions would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

    found your post. hmm. so you have a report from the az bon about your being denied the license?? if so, you must attach that to your application along with your written summary regarding the issue. your license has not been revoked, correct?? just follow up with ohio bon and be totally honest. if your license is not under any kind of scrutiny. then i think you will be o.k. but, i am unfamiliar with ohio nursing law and you just have to follow up with them.

    good luck!!

    siri, crnp, clnc, rlnc

  • Oct 23 '17

    Guys, going to ask that all talk about the differences in Residents and NP students be taken elsewhere. Some personalization occuring and very off-topic.

    Please stick to the topic about "so hard to find a preceptor"........o.k.?? Thanks.

  • Oct 23 '17

    I preface this lengthy Article to show that the RN needs no formal education to practice as a Legal Nurse Consultant (LNC) ..... they need RN experience and the ability to apply Standards of Care (SOC) to the patient chart, how to follow the Nurse Practice Act (NPA), and adhere to Policies and Procedures of the hospital/clinic.

    Now, in saying all of the above, there are many educative entities for the RN seeking formal education as an LNC.

    There are two major entities that many RNs choose:

    • The American Association of Legal Nurse Consultants (AALNC)
    • The Vickie Milazzo Program

    Both offer basic education as an LNC.

    The American Association of Legal Nurse Consultants (AALNC)

    The AALNC is an online program with, currently, 8 Modules of study. (11-27-14)

    AALNC is working to deliver an all-new, enhanced LNC Online Course. This three-year effort will replace the current eight course modules with twenty shorter modules for more convenient, interactive learning. Individual modules will also focus on each of the top five practice areas based on the 2012 Practice Analysis.

    The first release in 2014 includes the following revised modules:

    • Introduction to Legal Nurse Consulting
    • Legal Fundamentals
    • Interacting with Plaintiff/Defense Clients
    • Medical Records Identification, Access, and Analysis
    • Researching Medical Information and Literature
    • Communication and Report Writing
    • Identification, Evaluation, and Collaboration with Expert Witnesses

    Mark your calendars! The first phase of the new online course modules will be available for purchase in the coming month. Check back here for details on how to purchase the new modules once they are available. 11-27-14

    One considering this avenue of education should purchase the most recent version of the text: Legal Nurse Consulting, Principles and Practice. I suggest purchasing this text whether you decide to complete the modules or not. It is an an excellent text and the RN can gain a lot of necessary information to work as an LNC.

    If the RN completes the course of online study, they are awarded a "certificate of completion". This is not a "certification". In order to be certified with the AALNC, the RN (completing the course or not) must meet requirements to sit for the examination. The requirements include:

    Eligibility Criteria Guidelines
    The activities that satisfy the eligibility requirement for 2000 hours of legal nurse consulting experience must meet all three of the following criteria:
    1. The activities must be performed at the request of a client (e.g., a law firm, insurance company, hospital, or other agency involved in legal processes), and
    2. The activities must be related to claims or cases in which the education and experience of a registered nurse are necessary, and
    3. The activities must be of the kind that are generally considered billable.

    Examples of these activities are:
    • Collecting, organizing, and reviewing medical records and other relevant healthcare or legal documents.
    • Summarizing and analyzing the information in medical records and other relevant healthcare or legal documents.
    • Assessing issues of liability, causation, and/or damages.
    • Researching relevant healthcare-related literature, guidelines, standards, regulations, etc.
    • Communicating verbally or in writing with clients, appropriate parties, experts, and witnesses.
    • Identifying, locating, evaluating, and conferring with experts.
    • Conferring with clients and appropriate parties regarding case strategies.
    • Drafting documents or other materials to be used as attorney work product or as evidence.
    • Attending interviews, depositions, hearings, mediations, arbitrations, or trials.
    • Contacting and conferring with vendors to develop demonstrative evidence or to collect costs of healthcare services, supplies, and/or equipment.
    • Testifying at depositions, hearings, arbitrations, or trials.
    • Training or supervising other nurses in the practice of legal nurse consulting.
    • Explaining the theory and practice of relevant health sciences or healthcare issues to legal professionals and other members of the legal team.
    • Instructing other healthcare professionals in the aspects of legal liability pertaining to their own practice.

    Activities which may be potentially billable but may NOT be used to satisfy this eligibility requirement are:
    • Traveling to and from sites to perform any of the above activities.
    • Accounting and billing as part of managing a business.
    • Marketing as part of managing a business.
    • Solely waiting to give testimony.

    The RN who successfully completes the certification examination will use the designation LNCC (Legal Nurse Consultant Certified). This is the only legal nurse consultant exam accredited by the American Board of Nursing Specialties.

    The Vickie Milazzo Program

    This program is a 6 day program and once completed, the RN sits for a certification examination. Upon successful completion of the program, the RN can then use the designation CLNC (Certified Legal Nurse Consultant).

    There are several other LNC programs that are popular with the RN community which include:


    Advanced Legal Nurse Consulting Certification Course. This is a DVD Home Study Program. Once completed, the RN can then sit for certification.

    There are other programs offered by Attorneys in different states. Some Community Colleges offer LNC certificate programs.

    One thing to beware, check with your Board of Nursing (BON) regarding CEUs as an LNC. Many BON only accept continuing education if the RN is certified as LNCC from The American Association of Legal Nurse Consultants.


    Please see RN Experience when Considering the Legal Nurse Consultant Career

  • Oct 17 '17

    Which is why I said the APN must be "adventurous". Read that, "highly structured" and able/willing to follow rote protocols. Stepping out of said protocols is "practicing medicine w/o a license".

  • Oct 14 '17
  • Oct 9 '17

    Hello BSNHopefull and welcome to

    I just wanted to welcome you and wish you much good luck in the UT Tyler program.

  • Oct 3 '17

    Hello BSNHopefull and welcome to

    I just wanted to welcome you and wish you much good luck in the UT Tyler program.