Wolf at the Door, BSN, RN 16,806 Views
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I made the transition from adult ICU to NICU about 2.5 years ago. Like someone already mentioned, there have been a number of similar threads on this topic, most of which I have responded to. If you have specific questions, feel free to PM me! In brief, moving from big people to little people was the best decision of my career -- difficult, but very worth it.
The OP confuses the Bay Area with California. The Bay Area is just one city in a HUGE state - the 3rd largest state after Alaska and Texas. That said, California is not for everyone, but I am surprised at how much some people hate it.
SF Bay Area - I've lived there and agree it is way too expensive. But some people just love it there and will make financial sacrifices happily in order to live there.
LA - I lived there for almost 15 years and I loved it. But LA is becoming too crowded, congested, and expensive for me. But for a young person, there is just so much to do and see, along with fabulous weather. There are pockets of affordability in this mega sprawl. There are lots of universities and colleges, and along with entertainment and high tech, a lot of young people live here.
Orange County - not as congested and messy as LA, but with fabulous beaches; can be pricey, but can still find affordable housing. Several colleges and universities.
San Diego - still affordable, although prices are going up. I own a house here and think it is the best coastal city - best weather, friendly people, tons of outdoor recreation, and enough nightlife for the young people. Don't overlook North San Diego County, with funky beach towns like Encinitas and Leucadia, along with surfer towns like Oceanside and Carlsbad. We've got UCSD (huge medical facility) and SDSU (over 50,000 students). Some huge hospital systems: UCSD, Sharp, Scripps, Kaiser, VA Hospital, along with some smaller hospitals like Palomar and Tri City.
Palm Springs is quite metropolitan and still affordable. Yes, it is in the desert, but everyone has air conditioning. And it is a dry heat, unlike the miserable humidity of the East and South.
Lake Tahoe area - both California and Nevada sides. Well, you can't beat this area for physical beauty and recreation opportunities. The Nevada side has both Carson City and Reno for city life and Nevada has no state income tax.
Since I know California well, I will write a bit about the interior cities here. Go to Google maps and pull up a map of California.
San Joaquin Valley South to North (also referred to as Central Valley) is farm country. Most of the nation's fruits, veggies , nuts, and rice are grown here, along with a lot of dairy and beef cattle.
Bakersfield – about 400,000 people. 2 hour drive from LA. Very affordable. Has Cal State Bakersfield.
Fresno metro area – 1 million people, 3 hour drive to LA, 4 hour drive to SF, 1.5 hour drive to Yosemite (east) or Central California Coast with beaches and wine country (west). Very affordable with lots of beautiful parks and new housing. Big enough to have everything except for the super high end shopping like Neiman Marcus, etc. Has Fresno State, so get some of the college town benefits. I was very impressed with Fresno.
Merced – about 100,000 people . Large migrant worker population. New Univ of Calif campus – Merced, so benefits of college town.
Modesto (pop 200,000) and Stockton (pop 300,000) – good size cities close to each other, only 1 hour drive from SF. In fact, a lot of people live there and commute to SF/Silicon Valley for work.
Sacramento (pop 500,000) is just a one hour drive from SF. It is the capital of California and is booming. Prices are going up as people are moving here from SF and Silicon Valley. Univ of Calif Davis, a fantastic school, is here, along with Sacramento State, so the cultural benefits of a college town. Davis is a lovely town, too.
Placerville – lovely town (10,000 people) that is really a suburb of Sacramento. It is a quick 30 minute drive due east of Sacramento, in the foothills of the Sierra Nevadas, just a 1 hour drive to Lake Tahoe for skiing, boating, etc. Placerville is booming as people are "discovering" it.
Redding – 3 hours north of Sacramento, 100,000 people. That's big enough to have all the necessities. Very affordable. 4 hour drive to SF, daily flights to SF are 1 hour. 2.5 hours to Sacramento. You can be in Oregon in less than 2 hours. Beautiful area in foothills of mountains. Main industry is tourism, then healthcare. Mt. Shasta, Lake Shasta, Whiskeytown Lake, Mt. Lassen, Trinity Lakes, Sacramento River has 30 miles of trails on each side for walking, cycling, etc. Fishing, boating, hiking, camping, skiing. Lots of healthcare because it is the healthcare hub for far northern California up to the Oregon border. As you can tell, I really like Redding.
Chico and Oroville – a bit southeast of Redding (1.5 hours), also around 100,000 people. Chico is a big college town (Chico State has 50,000 students) with some beautiful parks and lots of artsy areas. Also very affordable. Chico is flat and Oroville is in rolling hill country, quite lovely. Like Redding, within few hours drive of Sacramento and SF for weekend getaways.
Pluses of Central Valley
2. You will get awesome fresh fruits, veggies and nuts – most of the nation's supply is grown here
3. People there are like the Midwest – that kind of down to earth friendliness
4. Mild winters
5. No issues with wild fires
6. Great country music
1. Summers are hot. However, it is a dry heat, with little humidity. You will have A/C, so who cares?
2. Air quality near the agricultural areas in the south part of the San Joaquin Valley can be problematic if you are sensitive (dust in the air, etc). Didn't bother me, though.
3. Central Valley is politically "red, " with the exception of Sacramento and Chico. I don't care about my patients' politics, but if it really bothers you, well then not the place for you. However, because of the outrageous home prices in SF and LA, more and more people are moving from there to the Central Valley in search of affordable housing.
I am aware of this, lucky you (not living in San Francisco, in terms of cost of living).
I don't want to start here UNION wars, but we get what we deserved. Our hospital had a chance to get Teamsters in, with about the same pay rate, but much better benefits, including pension plan, which was matching approximately 1:7 (if you contribute $100K, which is MAX, when you retire, you will get $700K).
Oh well what is done is done.
It is hard to live in San Francisco making that money unfortunately
It's a sad state of affairs in California where if you make $ 120,000 you're considered a working poor.
I second what RN_true12 said above. The job market in the Bay Area and Southern CA is very competitive. It is very hard for a new graduate RN to get a job in the hospital as every acute care position requires one year of experience. The cost of living is also extremely high in those area as one shared bed room in a house can be from 800-1500 (from postings on Facebook and Craighlist). My advice is not to move here unless you already have a job lining up. Otherwise it will be cash-burning to live in the Bay Area and Southern CA.
Source: ICU RN in a major teaching hospital in the Bay Area.
What... you're on Fakebook with a Public account but don't want the Public looking..... oh that's funny
Definitely not. Facebook is public information. As others said though it does suggest a lack of boundaries and makes him seem just plain nosey.
No. Unprofessional but not HIPAA. A HIPAA violation would be if a nurse disclosed something they knew about your medical history to some body who didn't need to know it to provide medical care to you. Facebook is what you posted publically about yourself.
Are you sure they're union? A lot of hospitals in Southern California are not. When I lived in Orange County none of the hospitals I worked for were union. Not everyone is CNA union either. You could always call and ask but some HR managers get shifty if you say the U word down there.
its also much harder to access contracts in California. Every place that I have worked for that was Union you had to already be hired to access the contract. Either it's on their internal website or they give you a booklet. Sorry to not be of more help.
If you do not deal with this successfully now, or at least see it through to the end with your best effort, you will find yourself with the ADDED stress of starting over at a new job in addition to the same problems you are now experiencing. That is, if you can find a new job any time soon. Whether or not you resign tomorrow, next week, or next month, work on devising a plan to cope effectively. Do not continue to react to the environment at work, start to act in a proactive manner. You will grow as a result.
Hello, a Californian here. Having lived and worked in both SF and LA (and still here) and therefore knowing the situation in California, I am acknowledging the OP's frustration at the current state of affairs. I would like to give a different perspective, however. Not everyone should or needs to avoid the Bay Area. Yes, I agree some things can be a little insane price-wise but people have priorities and preferences, and the culture in Danville or Madera may not suit a nurse in their 20s. There is something also just called living and enjoying life while you can until you're ready to do something else.
Nor Cal has probably the strongest nursing union in the country, esp Kaiser, but I've heard that there are changes that are being made or have been made which are not as cushy as before. If nurses keep fighting to be union and vote for representatives who support unions and support each other, then everyone could have something similar.
I know everyone has their own opinions so this is is just my two-cents' worth.
As for So Cal, I echo what I just said above about wanting to live near things to do, etc. I would personally not live all the way in Inland Empire. It is super suburban with not much to do. Good for families and someone who wants to get away from it all.
Our society has minimal critical thinking skills as well as a decreased ability to cope. Frustrating for everyone!
Don't be so quick to denigrate the experiences of those who did not have your good fortune. Renting just a room may not be everyone's cup of tea.
I'm a little confused. You ask about NYC, but say you want to go to Rochester. What is the actual geographic area you're considering? Are you bound to the NY area for a particular reason or have you just not considered moving?
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