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    Quote from KSjo88
    It's sickening... you assign me 5-6 patients at a time...and they get needier and needier. Not medical or nursing wise either. Just plain needy. Oh and how about our hospital has a menu you can "order" off of. Like spa treatments oh and a foot massage. Guess who is expected to do this! Me as the nurse. please. If I am going to be doing massages and foot rubs and facials I would have went to school to be an esthetician. Just nonsense. Like the lady who came in with SOB....doctor ran every test you could think of on her and nothing wrong. He tells her to lose some weight and start working out...she flips tells him he doesn't know how to do his job and reports him to hospital administration. Or the woman in the ER holding room who calls hospital administration and complains that her room doesn't have a window so they admit her....later complains after having all pain meds ordered given that she wants a PCA....doctor says no she calls hospital admin...doctor orders pca....she overdosed and needs narcan. Is this really what I want to be apart of!?
    This is all unbelievable. These people are insane. And dirtbags. Please find a way to get out of that hospital system. Magnet, you say? You might want to find a way to drop a dime to the Magnet people and tell them just how magnetic this hospital is.

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    When changing a urostomy bag, use a tampon held against the stoma to wick the urine while prepping the skin. Makes the whole process faster and easier.

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    Actually, if everything you're saying is true, it doesn't sound like much of a school. You were assigned an NPO patient without being taught was NPO means. (Were you supposed to research your patients before clinical?) Students are in a patient room without instructor supervision when it's clear you needed pretty close supervision. Then, when your actions are being discussed with you, race and religion get brought up.

    Is this a for-profit school?

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    wondern and curiousMD like this.

    Quote from wondern
    I'm just curious as to what other profession is paid according to their need? Older nurses deserve the same pay, or more, not less. I feel this is very age discriminatory.

    Also, if you're working 50 hours a week that is not retired or semi-retired. Actually an older nurse deserves more pay for her experience! Why would you think it is okay to pay older nurses less? I really don't get that train of thought at all.

    Who cares that much abut flexibility at 50 hours a week with 2 weeks vacation?
    Of course the nurses themselves determine what their needs are. I just described the situation a nurse would likely have to be in to go for that job, as long as the job entailed just a few flexible hours per week. It certainly wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea.

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    I think your best bet is to hire 2-3 semi-retired or retired nurses who aren't ready to let their licenses go. Everyone gets a few hours of work per week, a few bucks and not a whole lot of stress. They can cover vacations for one another if they want to augment their 2 weeks with unpaid time. I think schedule flexibility would be the biggest selling point to attract a few seasoned but low-needs RNs. Good luck.

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    JKL33 likes this.

    Quote from JKL33
    Reality check.

    Let's not forget that over in acute care the price point for hiring an at-will RN (effectively/apparently) comes with carte blanche to be thoroughly abusive in different ways, and doubly abusive by everything that goes into covering up the fact that what I just said is true.

    What's better? Work with someone you might get to know fairly well and probably be treated like a fellow human being while not making much money, or make a professional wage while being treated like a subhuman piece of garbage?

    Both have their obvious and serious philosophical incongruities.

    Why get put-out at a physician, but not an MBA or any of the "Cs"? This OP person kinda wants what s/he can't afford, but the "haves" in healthcare corporations don't even pretend to worry about such minor matters. That's mom-and-pop to them - they offer higher wages and then simply make demands that aren't commesurate with compensation after all. And have the complete power to do so.

    Not sure that one way of refusing to pay for what you want is better than the other.
    It isn't any better. But this is one person asking us how feasible this is. If a hospital MBA-type came on here with something similar it wouldn't be pretty.

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    Quote from NurseCard
    I can see maybe a nurse in the later stages of her career looking for
    something that is laid back, with less pay being OK. I can see myself
    doing something like that, maybe when my kids are both out of the
    house. but the lack of benefits is a huge barrier.
    So is the apparent 40 hr work week. Nurses willing to settle for low pay and no benefits do not want to have to be there every day with a measly two weeks of vacation per year. This pot is going to have to be sweetened to attract anyone with an unencumbered license.

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    Quote from Davey Do
    Working at Wrongway Regional Medical Center is a board game:


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    This makes me think a Monopoly-style board game might be useful to teach students what their nursing careers might entail rather than any actual nursing knowledge. Land on various squares: "Half-hour to shift change; your patient just coded." "Your non-nurse friends are planning a group vacation. Roll the dice to see if you can get vacation approved." "Several colleagues with seniority just retired. You anticipate finally having Christmas off. Roll the dice to see if any of the orientees will be off orientation by then." "You have a patient with a PIA family. Roll to see if they give you a break by firing you."

    Could be fun! Or not.

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    There are no good answers to this one. I'm sorry. You and your coworkers will just have to figure out how to deal with it as best you can. Your management will likely be of no help. Just reading your post causes me to have evil, un-nursely fantasies. Some people may jump on here to remind you this is someone's mother, sister, Avon lady, whatever.

    I hope you're at a hospital, not a nursing home. At least then your suffering should end a bit sooner. Hang in there.

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    Quote from Mavrick
    Probably. If they looked at what we do with the perspective of ignorance most lay people have of the law enforcement world.

    For the most part nurses are trusted before the fact and get an even more generous view of our requests when we explain why we are doing something.

    Police get spit on just for being in a uniform.

    Some people don't give a crap about other people's rights when they are on their own self righteous mission to get what they want, so they blame and torment the enforcer.

    When given a choice about being in the same space with some looney tune with a weapon, you call someone ELSE (police) to handle your problem and get outta the way. You're getting out while they have to go in.

    Since when can you be instantly, absolutely, positively, 100% certain, like your life depended on it that some stranger you just met in low light conditions doesn't have some lethal piece of metal in their fast-moving, coming at you hands????? Cuz if you are wrong just once, you ain't getting home today. or EVER.

    Sure, there are bad apples that deserve a double dose of punishment for abusing their position of trust. That should take a jury of peers to judge these people who have to deal with the underbelly of life that law enforcement officers do.

    Nurses are NOT like police. There is NO comparison to what nurses do.
    I can't "like" this enough.

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    Getting fired by a PIA patient or family is a GIFT. Take it. You'll have enough occasions to get stuck with someone else's PIA after THEY got fired.

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    Quote from Wuzzie
    Because they don't want nurses to have a voice.
    Exactly. They would much rather pay you a pittance and tell you "to not discuss your salary with anyone". Then no one knows what anyone else is making. They like to pit nurses (and other staff) against one another and cry poor whenever they're asked to beef up staffing. I've even heard brainwashed coworkers lamenting "Oh, we're just so over-budget!" when none of us had any idea what the budget was.

    It's easy to bust a union: just provide respect for your employees with fair compensation and acceptable working conditions. No one wants to bother unionizing then. The harder management tries to undermine a union is your biggest clue to how much you need one.

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    Chilled1121 likes this.

    Quote from Chilled1121
    Also just an update. There was letter sent out by an gmail domain email address to all the nurses asking to sign a petition saying you are for the hospital and not for the union and that it could be legally binding. I'm really over the anti union campaign that is being ran. It feels very unprofessional.

    Part of me feels like reporting it to IT as suspicious. I feel there is so much wrong with this as you have to get permission from a manager and or director to be able to send out an email to the entire nursing staff especially from a non work email. Seems shady to me.
    It probably is shady. There are laws that prohibit management from engaging in certain activities designed to undermine union organizing. Managements everywhere can be quite underhanded. It wouldn't surprise me that a manager sent out an email from off-site so the hospital can't be fined. On one hand I would flag it for IT; on the other hand, if you're too vocal in favour of union organizing, you will have a target on your back. (I have experienced this personally.)

    Just remember, the same management that will pull dirty tricks to undermine the union is the same management that will NOT work with you as an individual or group to improve your working conditions.

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    Chilled1121 likes this.

    Quote from Chilled1121
    So yeah. I have went to a few union interest meeting. I guess one concern I keep hearing is that our hospital is a nurse driven hospital and we are able to creat a lot of our policies or have a hand in them. There seems to be this implication that unions would interfere with our ability to create clinical policies (gtt management and what not). Of course I'm hearing this from people who are very much anti union and I'm wondering if there is any truth to that. That would be a huge turn off for me as I don't think that should be a union role. I do think the hospital in general needs the union for the HR side.
    There is no truth to the doom-and-gloom declarations from the anti-union crowd. Many people are downright ignorant about labour unions, some are just liars (like management). I've had people tell me they thought hospital policy superceded the union contract; some thought our dues were paid as an employee benefit; the list goes on.

    Try to find objective (and honest) people to speak to, to get the good, the bad and the ugly.

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    Here.I.Stand, meanmaryjean, heron, and 1 other like this.

    Quote from chare
    I don't think so. As TriciaJ suggested, I think that he's lost someone, either a family member or a patient that he was close to, and is trying to find answers. For some reason he doesn't feel that he can ask the hospice provider, so he has come here for answers, answers that we can't give him.
    If he comes back and clarifies and continues the discussion, then we'll know the post is legit. His continued absence is starting to make me think he is a troll.


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