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No Stars In My Eyes 28,845 Views

Hi! Thanks for checking out my page. I've been a member of allnurses since Apr 8th, '11. I have no blogs or journals to follow, but you are welcome to find me on the threads I follow, where I love humor and silliness to counter the seriousness of life. Feel free to chime in. Currently work PD/Geriatrics.

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  • 2:00 pm

    I feel your pain. I've written people up for every thing from dereliction of duty to insubordination to no avail. I reported CNAs and nurses for working under the influence and nothing happened until the patients complained.

    One particular day I was playing hide and seek with a CNA I'd previously written up for abandoning her shift. I called the DON and she said "write her up". I explained that I didn't have the time to complete paperwork that wasn't going to be addressed. She said "what do you expect me to do?". I said, fire her. She said, "i can't do it because we're short". I told the DON I'd do it if she didn't. She said "you can't do that, only corporate can".

    Long story short, the same CNA shows up 2 hours late a few days later. No call. I called the DON. She says, "tell her she no longer works here". I said, "so now you want me to fire her. Ok". Then I hung up and fired her.

    Sometimes you just have to do the dirty work because management doesn't want to be the bad actor. I'd rather be short then babysit.

  • 1:59 pm

    Another dinosaur here, but now retired.

    I can speak from experience that when you've been 'shot down' or otherwise unsupported by higher uppers, you'll be very selective about which future battles/tasks to fight.

    I undertook supervisory actions in situations where I acted as I saw fit based on circumstances. Then my actions were negated, either overtly or covertly, by management/administration. It DID NOT FEEL GOOD!!! And it makes one doubt their own decision-making capabilities or if management/admin will or will not support them in the future.

    Lots of DONs pay lip-service to their nurses for their supervisory and disciplinary responsibilities. And many staff have no education or training to do so. So it's often like walking on jello for those nurses.

    In your past postings here, I felt you did a super nice job empowering and supporting your staff to do their best. I admired that. But not many facilities/nurses have had your type of leadership. So less has been expected of so many other staff that they DON'T produce as you're used to. But I do agree with you. They ARE capable of doing more. But why should they?

    You're the NEW guy, so it's likely that they'll resist you. You've been bouncing around lately, so I hope things will work out for you.

  • 7:42 am

    Quote from Not_A_Hat_Person
    From my own LTC exprience, between the emphasis on customer service and a culture of micromanagement, I'm not surprised someone would call the DON about a resident wanting to go out to smoke during a thunderstorm. If the DON says no, the nurse is off the hook if the resident complains. If the nurse simply refuses, they're probably looking at a write-up (I worked in a facility where everyone was written up about everything).
    Gotta second this! As usual, there is lots of truth in these comments - some people are just plain dim and managing them is a misery. Holding an anti-hypertensive because the sbp was too high???? Are they trying to kill someone?

    On the other hand - and there is always another hand - many of the examples cited here show signs of incompetent micromanagement in the past. Too much of that and automatons is what you wind up with.

    I have worked with managers who second guess every decision made by the bedside nurses, dictate their every choice and lay blame on staff for every mishap and adverse outcome.

    I can see how demoralizing and frustrating it is to deal with staff who refuse to function - but sometimes you may need to consider the history to find a solution.

  • 7:41 am

    Common sense is sooooo gone!!! I work as a wound treatment nurse, so the other day a nurse came to me saying that her patient's wound vac was alarming. I asked her did you check to see if the battery was low and was it plugged into the wall outlet? she said, "The wall outlet, what is that?"

  • 7:40 am

    Common sense just isn't so common anymore unfortunately.

  • Jun 26

    I got two calls during my recent out of state vacation to see if I could cover a sick call. Um, nope. I'm not even in the same time zone.

    Usually a simple no is sufficient but if I'm pressed my go to phrase is "I have family commitments". Those could be a concert with my wife, grocery shopping, playing catch with the dogs, or taking a nap. It really doesn't matter because it is my personal time and none of their business.

    I used to work at a place that would offer callback time as an incentive. That would sometimes get me to cancel my yardwork plans in favor of time and a half.

  • Jun 26

    Quote from Kooky Korky
    In the olden days, we would get a piece of paper, like in a notebook, and write down who we called, when, and response.

    I don't understand why you say there is no real effective way to keep track of previously made calls. I'm sure the same method I described could still be done by hand or even on a computer.
    LOL! Good ole paper and pen! *Facepalm*

  • Jun 26

    Quote from Emergent
    The problem at this job is they don't have an organized way of keeping track of who has been contacted. On different days different people just go down the list.
    I face the same problem at my agency.

  • Jun 26

    Quote from Davey Do
    Sure, I'll call you back.

    Lessee- you left me a message at about 2pm, the middle of my sleep session, so I'll return your call at about 2am, the middle of your sleep session.

    Can I have your home phone number?


  • Jun 26

    Quote from No Stars In My Eyes
    I don't have trouble saying no. It's only when the caller starts whining and cajoling that I 'make up' a reason:

    'I don't think you'd want me to, I'm on my second glass of wine.'
    Once someone called my bluff and said she would come get me and drive me to the case.
    "You are saying it's okay if I am drunk on the job?"

    Most of the time I say no, but I thank them for thinking of me.

    When we had a CSR who had been there for years, my phone would ring, the caller ID had the name of my company on it. I picked the phone up and instead of saying hello, I said, "No." We have laughed about that many times.

    I don't know anybody in my office, they are all new. It's like working for a different company.
    I'll have to get them used to me before I start in on any of my goofy responses.
    I got such call for help yesterday and promptly told that I won't make it for that shift even if I wished to do so because my flight was some 6 hours later, over 2 time zones, plus 100+ miles drive home. Their reaction: can't you just change tickets somehow? (well, if you pay me the appropriate fees, which are WAY more than your measly "compensation" and pick me up in the airport, then I may think about it )

    It didn't touch the worst one, though. The one when I was seriously asked "to maybe speed up a bit somewhere" in order to make 600+ miles in between 2 or 3 hours. Gosh, I really always was dreaming of my own private jet... will you buy me one of I really do it? A gently used Ferrari will go, too - I'm not picky about such things

  • Jun 25

    I too am a second career Nursing student, but not at 30, I'm 45. I have a husband and a 6 year old; when I started school she was 3. Nursing is something I had always wanted to do, but I waited until my daughter was in preschool. I started doing my prerequisites at a local community college, just taking 2 classes at first, to ensure I could handle the demand and my life. Because I had no prior degree I had to take everything; English, Math, Science, Humanities, all of it. It took me 3 years to get these done because I wanted to make sure I could handle my life and the classes and get good grades. But, now I am finally done with all of the prereqs and going into Nursing School to get my BSN. It was not easy because you need to get good grades in all of your prereqs, especially math/science, as the nursing schools are very competitive. But, it is so worth it. I am proud of myself for doing it, my family is proud of me for doing it, and its a career I know I'll love. My advice to you is to at least start your prereqs if this is something you really want to do, take a class or 2 to start making your way towards the goal. If you get pregnant, you can still handle a class or 2 and slowly inch your way towards where you want to be. Where I live universities will only accept science courses taken within the last 5 years, some 10 years, so keep that in mind and maybe research your area for requirements.

  • Jun 25

    You're going to be 37 in four years whether you become a nurse or not. There is no such thing as being "too old" to go to nursing school, and you have plenty of time to do that. You can take a few prerequisite classes while you're pursuing the American Dream; depending on the school you choose, the courses may be good for up to five years. Best of luck to you whatever you decide.

  • Jun 25

    I've never had any trouble saying no to shifts I don't want to work. Sometimes I'll cite specific reasons such as I'm scheduled at my other job, I'm out of town, I have too much to do at home, a family member is visiting, or I am totally exhausted. Other times I'll just say I have plans. Those plans might just be to stay home and enjoy my life. Sometimes I've said I just drank a beer, sorry.

    What was different in this case was that I just totally ignored the call because I had already been contacted several times by text, through the hospital scheduling email program, and by phone. She left a voicemail, and had the audacity to instruct me to call back whether I was going to work or not.

    I usually try to give the courtesy of a return text, which is how my main job contact us. I like people to return my texts. It takes hardly any effort. What I don't like is for someone to get pushy with me. But it's never really been much of a problem.

  • Jun 25

    Quote from No Stars In My Eyes
    About ten years ago I was on vacation in Maine, my mother and I were eating breakfast at a restaurant, and my employer called me about a sudden cancellation on a Must-Staff case, and how soon did I think I might get there to relieve the night shift person? Hahahahahahahahahaha, It would have been a heck of a long commute; if I drove straight through I probably could relieve her in a couple of days!
    Quote from amoLucia
    NSIME - I did the same call. Only my employee was on the road in Colorado. We two just had a good laugh about it.
    Seems to be a theme. I was on a hiking trail 5,000+ miles from home. I answered and "politely" told them where to go.

  • Jun 25

    NSIME - I did the same call. Only my employee was on the road in Colorado. We two just had a good laugh about it.