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  • Aug 17

    Yesterday I went to an interview at Kennestone. I gave myself 3 hours to travel there from Chattanooga so as not to be late. 6 miles from exit 267B traffic came to a halt. Ultimately, I ended up being 20 mins late. This was a 3 pm appointment, not exactly rush hour.

    The recruiter never told me where to park so I ended up far away from the actual HR office (outside the ER). So I had to leg it with a full bladder for what seemed like miles.

    The facility was huge. It's 663 beds now so I guess it oughta be. Very modern & nice looking inside.

    I finally get to HR. The receptionist, unfriendly. My recruiter, completely uninvested. She dressed poorly, didn't make eye contact & immediately trots me back outside & upstairs for my interview.

    So I meet my potential manager. Almost immediately my uh-oh indicator starting going off. There was a woman seated in her office giving me a blatant, & slow once over with an expression of distaste. She left & I sat down.

    The interview lasted about 25 mins. Not many questions were asked of me. Some things I didn't like. You aren't allowed to start your own IV's, they have an IV team. Thats great for some, but I like keeping my skills current.

    She asked me about my charge nurse experience, so I told her. Then she looked at me in an odd way & said we have a charge nurse. I was applying for a prn job????

    Then she asked me about my preceptor experience. So I told her about some of the students I had precepted over the years. She then have a sly grin & said yeah, we have a lot of students here. We keep our eye out for the good ones.

    At that point I was just plain confused by the entire experience. I had driven 3 hours to be ignored by a recruiter, silently insulted by some woman I never even met, & then interviewed by a nurse manager who clearly was more interested in new grads.

    When it was finally over I thanked her & walked back to HR as I had been instructed. The recruiter took a long time to come & get me. She rushed through a list of basic questions, saying "mmhmm mmhmm" before I could get even 2 words out of my mouth. I *hate* that.

    Finally, she pulled out some info papers, rushed through what sounded like a prerecorded message about benefits, facilities, wellstar, blah, blah, blah.... I looked down & realized her light blue nail polish was half chewed off.

    I know thats a petty observation, but it just summed up my day perfectly. I smiled & nodded in all the right places.

    When I left I was so ecstatic to get out I was almost glad to walk the miles to my vehicle.

    Impression- Wellstar is a huge, faceless entity with mediocre pay, benefits, & most likely not worth the effort to attempt employing with.

    Bottom line- wild horses couldn't get me to practice there.

    I intend to withdraw my application today. I'm also going to send a letter about why I decided not to apply with them. Perhaps it'll help them in the future. Who knows?

    As far as I'm concerned, bad traffic, so-so pay, managerial bs & HR that regards you as a recently paroled felon.....no thanks.

  • Jul 21

    Everyone wants brownie points with management, so they are quick to throw others under the bus.

  • Jul 21

    Quote from gengen54
    I have attended BON meetings for many years and I was astounded at some of the seemingly petty offenses that were reported. However, I understand why it is done. It is one way to have a track record of the problem. If the same person moves from one place to another making the same mistakes, if no one reports it, no one knows this could be an unsafe practitioner.
    [my bold]

    gengen54,

    I appreciate the insights and good advice in the rest of your post, but I must vehemently disagree with the portion quoted above as it relates to the OP's situation. Please indulge my explanation because this affects every single RN currently working.

    There are exceptions to what I'm about to say; such as situations that involve recklessness (beyond just being understaffed), intentional mishandling of of medications, true diversion, etc.

    The idea that, as a general rule, all medication errors will be reported to the BoN in order to track potentially unsafe practitioners, is ridiculous to say the least. I struggle to restrain myself here!

    Is anyone paying attention to the accelerating abuse in Nursing?? Come on, I've been doing this long enough to have seen a few paradigm shifts now. While there have always been nurses experiencing job dissatisfaction or worried about staffing-related concerns, the crap treatment is accelerating at a faster pace every day now; it comes from all angles. This latest totally disingenuous labeling of medication errors as "mishandling", "diversion" etc. for the purpose of reporting them, is one such angle.

    Think about what you wrote. Do we need to protect the public by reporting situations such as those described in the OP? What public will be protected? What, exactly, does reporting HER situation protect the public from? Why would any good, conscientious RN be self-destructive enough to sign on to this job??! Your statement just means that going to work every day and not getting reported to the BoN is destined to become barely more than a crap shoot.

    We can make every effort to be safe, but WE don't control the confounding factors. I have a very hard time when seemingly good/reasonable/smart RNs champion ideas that, by their very nature, punish us so that someone else can remain off the hook for their contribution!!

    There are myriad ways that RNs can compromise patient safety. Singling out people for a simple thing like the OP's situation is INSANE. It *only* means that even excellent nurses are going to get caught up in it eventually. Meanwhile the facility will steamroll forward touting their exceptional commitment to patient safety.

    It is a B U L L C R A P trend that I will only ever endorse when hospitals are forced to undergo comparable amounts of financial loss, pain, and inconvenience as the RN they reported. In other words, if we're ALL going to get serious about safety issues, fine. If the idea is to simply pin it all on me - - NO WAY.

    I'm asking every one to think about this - at all levels.

  • Sep 24 '12

    Sounds like she has a "superiority complex" with a "chip on her shoulder" and she's not even a nurse...God help the patients. I'm "just an LVN" and my self esteem is quite high. I love what I do and I will respectfully put an RN in his/her place. A degree doesn't mean jack except that you went to school longer, it doesn't mean you're smarter, more caring, have more common sense or respect...you stephanieshae just proves this point. The "im gonna get the best and worst of both worlds"...what a stupid statement, that isn't just about you, it goes for everybody, from LVNs that have to deal with RNs (or soon to be) who spew stupidity, to all involved in healthcare..and once she realizes there are more people in this world and not just her, maybe she'll fall off her imaginary pedestal and oh boy..with her nonsense..it's going to be a long fall..so..I'll make that bed..but it won't be for me..it'll be for her.

  • Sep 24 '12

    To stephanieshae27...Ha! Classic case of RNitis. Bet my license on it that you have never been a CNA, nor an LVN. 'Chip on their shoulder'?? Really? Inferiority complex? Why in the world would you assume that? And, of course we are nurses, too! Why would we not be?

  • Sep 3 '12

    I've talked to plenty of LPNs before who have completely enjoyed their work. I also know RNs that were LPNs before who have said it was probably the best route they could have taken because it prepared them so well for the broader roles they would be assuming as RNs. Also, it provided them a way to generate good income as they went through school to complete their RN degrees. Now there are some LPNs that have become complacent and the years have passed them by and they regret not completing the RN which was so in their grasp. But I have never once met an LPN (I work in a SNF with RNs and LPNs) that said they regret becoming an LPN. The idea is never to become complacent. You are in control of your future. No one these days becomes an LPN with the notion that they will retire as an LPN. Most of us are becoming LPNs as a means to enter RN programs without having to be waitlisted and take an a huge load of classes. You have to take Pre-Reqs for any program if you don't have any college credits. Pre-Reqs being english, math, electives, social sciences, biology, A&P, those have to be taken regardless. If you are an LPN, it is my understanding that is accepted in lieu of the classes a first year nursing student would be taking, at least it is at the school I will be bridging over to upon completing my PN schooling. Honestly, the only way you will formulate a decision is to do your own research. Do not leave it up to the opinions of strangers. We don't know you or anything about you, thus, we don't know what's best for you. Only you and the Man Upstairs know that. If you feel that He is telling you an LPN program is not right for you, then that's what it is.

  • Aug 4 '12

    I find it hard to be myself, and still live down those stereotypical "flamboyant" expectations of the girls/women I find myself in classes with. Nursing school will be difficult, but as I go to a Junior College (population of about 6,000 students) the odds are that I will more than likely have known a few of the enrolled from before this semester. If that is the case, then I hope to become friends with a few and participate in group studies... If my last Nursing School experience is any indication of what I have to look forward to then I will not make many friends or participate in group studies. I will be left to my own devices. That is a sucky realization, but in the end I am doing this for myself and hopefully to make the lives of the children I plan on having (surrogacy or adoption) better. Grunt, Grin, & bare it all.... It will be worth it they say.

  • Jul 1 '12

    Here's the thing- I feel for you. I imagine how annoying this must be. But you can't change her. The only thing you can do is control how you respond. Which is way easier said than done. But it is what it is.

    Not knowing the lady.. some people are just difficult. Some people get a lot of joy from the anger they cause the others. Again, I don't know the lady to say this is the case- but there are miserable people out there. So who knows.

    Smile. Nod. Do the best you can. This woman won't be your future employer. You will feel no greater joy than the day you graduate and don't have to see her face anymore.

  • Jul 1 '12

    Quote from leenie45
    No teacher has the right to talk down to anyone. they are there to teach, we are there to learn. They are getting paid, and we are paying for it. Hard teachers can be hard without talking down to students. I appreciate that instructors can teach in different ways, but none of them should be talking down to anyone, its not a good learning environment. Being a difficult instructor doesnt equal being rude and unprofessional, nor should students treat the instructors with disrespect. It's mutual respect and professionalism on both parts, as it should be.
    That's how many teachers and one it's talking down to you. That's humanity. Wait to you get out and deal with Doctors.

  • Mar 23 '11

    Thanx and congrats to you too Mjaybx!!!!! It's gonna be tough but i know we can do it!!!!

  • Feb 13 '11

    I absolutely disagree with u, i just passed my exit on the first try... out of 18 of us, 15 passed. So if u had a hard time in the school, speak for urself. Ofcourse the school is challenging, but that is like any other lpn sch or rn sch out there. U certainly cannot expect teachers to spoon feed u. They have some wonderful teachers that are willing to help if u seek their help. And about teachers collecting bribe, dat sounds absolutely absurd. With all due respect, pls do not misdirect the ppl trying to do something valuable for themselves. I worked absolutely hard in The Center For Allied and i passed my exit on the first try. Am so anybody else that works just as hard as i did will be able to attain the same goal. Afterall i dont have five heads. The sch sets their exit exam standards higher than most school's out there. we all hated that idea, but know we all appreciate it, knowing that passing the exit gives u an 80% chance of passing ur boards. So whoever is attempting the center for allied, i say go for it, and put ur game face on.

  • Feb 13 '11

    Quote from Tidi
    Please listen to me. Do NOT go to LPN school. It is a waste of your time. There is no jobs available for new LPNs. If you really, truly want to be a nurse then save yourself time and money and go to traditional RN school. I know that many of you are busy-but There are part time and evening RN schools in NY/NJ that cost the same amount !

    TRUST ME.

    You won't find a job. And then you will either change your field of work or continue on to RN school. So please take my advice and just go to RN school!!!


    I could not be any more honest and frank. I passed all my exams 1st try, was an honor student, passed NCLEX first try..got my license in two states, and havent found a job in SIX MONTHS. The only jobs my classmates have found are medical assistant positions that pay ridiculously low. I am not alone in this opinion, others please speak up and let the new and prospective students know..There is NO job market for new LPN's in the New york/New Jersey area.

    OK, so I don't know why anyone would tell someone not to go to school rather it be LPN or RN, but I am an LPN and I have been for 5 years now. I have NEVER had a problem finding a job (and I am very picky, not NH or Hospitals for me thank God). My FIRST job as an LPN i made $25/hr doing outpatient clinic work (no wknds or holidays) and I was able to gain a specialty, gain CME's for free and get valuable experiene. NYC has a BUNCH of jobs and whoever can't find a job in NYC is LAZY or CRAZY. (Not attacking anyone, I'm just saying). I make good $ and I have licenses in both NY and NJ. I passed my board on the first time and I am now studying through Excelsior for my RN. I believe my LPN has given me alot of experience that will make me a better RN and I know PLENTY RN's who don't have half the common sense of LPN's because they don't know how to deal with real life situations. Gaining experience in nursing doesn't just come from a NH or hospitals, it comes from finding a place you want to work and working. That's it.

    Doing the LPN program helps to give you an advantage to make money and get an opinion on what real nursing is. I originally went for my RN and being on my own, supporting myself and strapped for cash, the LPN program was more convienent, cheaper and more guaranteed for a job. PT RN programs are very far and in between and the PT programs take the same amount of time as the FT programs do. After all, no matter what program you do, it's all depending on your personal situation. If you can afford to take your time and devote to school, go for your RN. But, if your a parent (or on your own supporting yourself) and you need a field of work that will help you get ahead in your life, then do the LPN. There is nothing wrong with doing LPN first! I hope you find the path that works for you. At the end of the day, either program will make you a NURSE.



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