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  • Nov 19 '15

    Quote from Red Kryptonite
    Uh, yeah.....had I been that laboring mother I would have complained too. How long did you stare?
    I was in the room for such a short period of time I didn't even realize I had a problem. I do remember the patient's face so I must have looked that direction. I believe I was in the room maybe 20 secs.

  • Oct 9 '15

    I stuck around long enough to realize I didn't belong , about 20 secs, instructor was in the room. I did knock.

  • May 8 '15

    Quote from RorySeiter
    Headed to my first OB rotation in a few hours. I will let you know if I am allowed in a room.
    I wouldn't be too worried. I asked this question because this was the main accusation that got me kicked out. I inquired further and was told the hospital no longer welcomes me at clinicals so therefore I am kicked out. There was some history that made it stick.

    Here is the formula to getting kicked out:
    1. Past history of being written up. (I don't know why, but nursing school will write you up for being late to class or any other minor offense)
    2. Running your mouth (I said a few things that I don't believe were offensive, but they upset the instructor. Keep your mouth shut and smile a lot)
    3. Show up on time (I wasn't late, but This will kill you in a heartbeat)
    4. Stick with your assigned patient especially in OB. (If I did it again I wouldn't bother to do anything for any other patients unless I was followed by a female nurse)

  • May 8 '15

    Quote from Tom LBC
    That is not correct. We had plenty of male students, myself included, in L&D, plus doctors and one male nurse who worked there for years. Male OB nurses are rare but not unheard of. My L&D rotation required that we be present for at least one birth. The only minor quibble was that some younger first-time moms were shy or had cultural requirements that male nurses not come in the room. They were always very polite about it.
    I was mistaken. Up the thread somewhere I said this was one of the most recent states to still ban this practice as recent as 10 years ago.

  • May 8 '15

    Quote from Red Kryptonite
    That's perfectly fine, and your right. But you're consistent.

    I just wonder about those who refuse male nurses, but happily accept male MDs, looking at, touching etc. the exact same body parts.
    I just wanted to note that we are specifically prohibited from performing vaginal exams as students. I would assume this is nationwide and for insurance reasons.

  • May 8 '15

    Quote from Morning_runner
    Its not the same thing. You have a long established relationship with your OB. I have been going to mine for 13 years. Also, nurses are the backbone of labor. They are the ones who coach and reassure a laboring woman. My nurses were champs. They were on the same level because they had been there.

    I chose my OB for his expertise. I would choose female labor nurses for theirs as well. The difference is theirs is personal. A male nurse can't tell you about his natural labor. A male nurse can't commiserate with you about how breastfeeding sucks. So basically it boils down to wanting someone who knows your pain. Not a man who no matter how much he has read or seen it. will never know it
    Sounds very logical and and a very unwelcoming environment for any males that dare to enter.

  • May 8 '15

    Quote from Morning_runner
    Its not the same thing. You have a long established relationship with your OB. I have been going to mine for 13 years. Also, nurses are the backbone of labor. They are the ones who coach and reassure a laboring woman. My nurses were champs. They were on the same level because they had been there.

    I chose my OB for his expertise. I would choose female labor nurses for theirs as well. The difference is theirs is personal. A male nurse can't tell you about his natural labor. A male nurse can't commiserate with you about how breastfeeding sucks. So basically it boils down to wanting someone who knows your pain. Not a man who no matter how much he has read or seen it. will never know it
    Sounds very logical and and a very unwelcoming environment for any males that dare to enter.

  • May 3 '15

    All the answers are no. I've done intimate care alone many many times in the nursing home environment as a CNA. I don't really like doing it on females. I think it is probably a lawsuit waiting to happen. I just kinda decided after this that I don't need these kinds of headaches. I'm going to be an engineer or do something less noble.

  • Apr 27 '15

    Quote from nkainzbauer
    I'm confused, were you kicked out for starring at the patient or for bringing a tray in her room ?
    I didn't ask that question, but I assume just my presence in the room was enough.

  • Apr 27 '15

    All the answers are no. I've done intimate care alone many many times in the nursing home environment as a CNA. I don't really like doing it on females. I think it is probably a lawsuit waiting to happen. I just kinda decided after this that I don't need these kinds of headaches. I'm going to be an engineer or do something less noble.

  • Apr 27 '15

    Essentially I upset the hospital, instructor and patient. I was not welcome back by any of them. Patient was in labor and I "stared" at the patient. My staring may have been realizing I wasn't welcome. I did not see anything, the patient was completely covered. I thought the same thing about if this situation was a female student would the outcome be the same? It was a stupid move on my part, maybe I should have ensured that the patient wanted me in their room and/or was escorted by my instructor. I believe the food tray was complimentary for the father. I set it on the far wall way away from the patient. I was never within less than 15 feet of the patient.

    Like I said, stupid move, but wondered what folks thought. I believe I am through with nursing.

  • Apr 24 '15

    Quote from iPink
    This story doesn't make sense. Someone had to have handed you the tray to tell you to take it to room X. In addition, you should have knocked and announced yourself asking if it was ok to enter the room.

    I agree with Bucky that there is too much missing holes in your story to actually give you help. Hope this is a learning experience and good luck in however you chose to deal with this.


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    I should have been deliberate about asking permission to come in and announced myself. When I entered my instructor was standing there and she didn't say anything.

    Hindsight is 20/20 and I could have done a whole bunch of things differently. I passed trays the other three days I was there with no issues. I could have asked the aide to help me with passing the trays and asked more details about the patients. I don't even know why the instructors make passing trays such a big issue, but they do. I thought it was my responsibility. I think its stupid to pass trays in RN training. I am not one of these people that thinks certain duties are beneath them, I just don't see the point.

    I wasn't really looking for any sympathy. I was just wondering what other thought. From the sentiment here it seems like the same things I was thinking. I had poor judgement, was dealt maybe a heavier hand than necessary, but I need more carefully assess the way I interact with patients.

  • Apr 24 '15

    I don't even know why the instructors make passing trays such a big issue, but they do. I thought it was my responsibility. I think its stupid to pass trays in RN training. I am not one of these people that thinks certain duties are beneath them, I just don't see the point..[/QUOTE]

    I think this may be more of an issue than anything else. It's not beneath us as students to do ANYTHING that is asked of us. If the instructor wants you to do it, you do it.

    As for why you were dismissed, seems odd, details are missing. It seems harsh to dismiss you for staring. Any student could stare if they saw something that they were unfamiliar with. It happens. Part of the student process is gaining a poker face.[/QUOTE]
    I was very tired that day and I might have stared a little too long. I saw a patient with a sweaty forehead and realized maybe I should leave. Nothing too exciting. It was such a non event I left the room and completely forgot about it until I had a meeting with my director. I wasn't sure what the big ordeal was?

    The funny thing is if I am this horrible creeper then why am I allowed to retake the class?

  • Apr 24 '15

    Essentially I upset the hospital, instructor and patient. I was not welcome back by any of them. Patient was in labor and I "stared" at the patient. My staring may have been realizing I wasn't welcome. I did not see anything, the patient was completely covered. I thought the same thing about if this situation was a female student would the outcome be the same? It was a stupid move on my part, maybe I should have ensured that the patient wanted me in their room and/or was escorted by my instructor. I believe the food tray was complimentary for the father. I set it on the far wall way away from the patient. I was never within less than 15 feet of the patient.

    Like I said, stupid move, but wondered what folks thought. I believe I am through with nursing.

  • Apr 24 '15

    All the answers are no. I've done intimate care alone many many times in the nursing home environment as a CNA. I don't really like doing it on females. I think it is probably a lawsuit waiting to happen. I just kinda decided after this that I don't need these kinds of headaches. I'm going to be an engineer or do something less noble.


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