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  • Nov 18 '11

    I just got word yesterday that I was selected as a new grad in the Med-surg, and will be leaving for COT on Oct. 17. and then for NTP on Nov. 28-Feb. 15, and then stationed in Lackland, TX.
    Who else out there got selected for Oct. COT?

  • Sep 25 '11

    OH my........

    PEOPLE, avoid agencies as much as possible!
    Put'em out of business!

  • Sep 25 '11

    TigerBlood1....please tell me you're not Charlie Sheen - LOL

    A govt position is a big enough warning.....

  • Sep 25 '11

    I almost took a pain management job as my first NP job, but decided against it while waiting to interview with the doc. He was late to the office due to being in the OR. I sat in the waiting room with the other patients (who were all angry that he was late) and heard all the gossip about the previous NP. After hearing all the office and patient drama in the waiting room I was like "NO WAY is this job for me!"

  • Jul 19 '11

    UPDATE: I packed up the car, the kids, and the dog and we left for Michigan june 23rd. While on the road between Michigan and Florida I was called by St Johns and St Mary's/ I set up interviews at both and was offerred both jobs. I also interviewed with Henry Ford the following week and was offered that job also! I ended up accepting the job at St Mary's because of the hours and location. I really wanted to work in Novi at Providence...but the offer was for nights and that doesnt work for me. The Henry Ford job was for urgent care 5 - 10 pm...weird hours but job sounded interesting. I have already gone through orientation and started with my preceptor at St Marys.....not bad for landing here 3 weeks ago with no job! We love Northville and the girls have already made friends. Thanks EVERYONE for their input and advice.:heartbeat

  • Jul 1 '11

    Gators1,

    I've spent the past year traveling the country as a contract provider. The pros for me have been the flexibility(!!), my ability to write my own ticket so to speak (lots of room for negotiating fees for services), and the autonomy. By far, the biggest con has been filing taxes as an 1099 employee. You have to keep track of EVERY expense that is work-related and if you are not organized and do not have an awesome accountant, you risk forking out a ton of dough or, even worse, being audited. I learned the hard way and subsequently became incorporated (set up an LLC) to avoid the self-employment tax and that did alleviate the amount I owed for the next tax period.

    In my experience, the clients I worked with would provide malpractice coverage and state licensure/DEA fees. Not having benefits wasn't a huge deal because I was able to find some affordable medical/dental plans online. I made a boatload more as an independent contractor, which helped make up for it.

    Hope this helped.

    TG

    P.S. Based on your username, it looks as though you're a fellow Gator!

  • Jun 18 '11

    I put students out of my lectures when they distracted me and other students by chatting. They got one warning then boom...out they went.

    Man's disrespect for his fellow man knows no bounds. Nor does foolishness and immaturity.

  • Jun 17 '11

    The OP strikes me as manipulative.
    The OP starts by winding everybody up... and then tries to come across as misunderstood... then very apologetic.
    It's like playing "rollercoaster" with people's emotions.
    I think the OP is enjoying watching people switch from one track to the other... as the OP dictates.

    I trust no one so swings so far from one end of the spectrum to the other... and so quickly.

  • Jun 17 '11

    Quote from mindlor
    I have a degree in management and tons of management experience, as soon as possible it is my goal to become a nurse manager and guess what, It is going to my mission in life to bring customer service back to nursing care. Remember the customer? Yes, the one in the bed, yes, thats right, the patient.
    Be careful what you wish for. The customer service model has turned many enthusiastic nurses into "bitter dried up old nurses that need to RETIRE". Many nurses feel like glorified waitstaff and that hospitals are trying to emulate 5-star hotels at the expense of patient care. Working as a nurse is rewarding but the politics of health care can numb the mind and suffocate the soul. Most nurses get into the profession because we want to "help" people but ridiculous nurse to patient ratios, administration focus on Press-Gainey scores, and inordinate amounts of paperwork can burn out even a saint.

    You have been through a difficult journey that has given you a unique perspective on what it's like to be a patient. But please remember, the nurses whom you are judging so harshly have likely also had personal struggles with illness, family issues, financial problems, and hospital politics. They, too, are on a journey. I am not defending the actions of any nurse who might be rude to students, other staff, or patients. But keep in mind that compassion fatigue is a reality and it happens to even the best and the most enthusiastic.

    If you want to go into management, you may wish to find out what turns enthusiastic, caring nurses into "bitter dried up old nurses that need to RETIRE" so that you can become part of the solution rather than part of the problem.

  • Jun 17 '11

    Meriwhen, my psych clinical instructor had the perfect solution to inappropriate dress. She warned us at the beginning of the semester that she kept a big baggy ugly but professional outfit in her trunk. If we showed up dressed inappropriately, we had two options...change into the ugly suit, or go home and be marked as a no call no show. The first time a girl wore culottes and we saw the ugly suit was also the last time we messed with the dress code! She was an awesome instructor!

  • Jun 16 '11

    Quote from BabyLady
    I personally, don't see the salaries as a tragedy....then again, it depends on what part of the country you live in.

    Folks, get out a calculator and DO THE MATH!

    Around here, a new grad nurse gets paid about $18 an hour....AT MOST....that is without shift diffrential....2 weeks paid vacation a year...that is 12 months of employment...$37,440 a year....and that is IF you work 40 hours a week...at my hospital, we only work 3, 12-hour shifts....so my salary is even less....a little over $33K...this is for a new grad RN.

    How much vacation time do you get????

    What kind of benefits do you get?

    Do you get a pension where you work that INCLUDES health insurance and all the other perks that state retirement offers, which is usually only 20 years in most states?

    Do you get your full summers off at work? So you get every weekend, Thanksgiving, Fall Break, Spring Break, Most of Christmas, etc...off where you work at the hospital????

    Take the above salary of $40K....that is for NINE months.

    If you factored that in what you make per month, that is $4,440 a month...that is more like $53K a year with all of the benefits of STATE employment.

    You can never, ever just look at the salary for any job, you have to look at the benefits that come up with it.

    You have to look at the ENTIRE picture.

    Also...why is their a nursing faculty shortage when so many post in the faculty forum that nursing education is HARD to break into???????

    The instructors at my school only actually lectured about 6 hours a week....and did clinicals about 20 hours a week...that leaves 14 hours each work week for planning, preparing lecture (which they pulled from the PP that came with the book 99% of the time), meeting with students, etc.

    Did I mention we didn't even have class on Fridays?

    Yup...a deal I would take hands down.
    You really have NO idea!!
    I could go on, but I have to get ready to go to my supplemental job.

  • Jun 16 '11

    Quote from iteachob
    I've learned to look at it as a type of mission work.

    It is, absolutely. I didn't think anyone made less than I did for a 9-month contract, then I talked to a friend at a different college, and she makes $38,000. The reason I still do it is because I believe strongly in the difference I can make in the students' learning experience and in the future of nursing. Of course, that doesn't stop me from squawking about it and trying to change things internally by showing salary comparisons (and you know how effective that's been, lol). It's sad that I made more as a new grad years ago than as a nurse with years of experience and an advanced degree. A total slap in the face, especially when you include all you do outside the classroom- the clinical prep work and assignments, the researching for lectures, thinking of new ways to teach that are fun and interesting. I usually spend most of my summer and many hours each week that will never be paid.

    Even more pitiful is that there is no real financial incentive to obtain advanced nursing degrees. If I pay out of pocket for my PhD at the institution of my choice, it would cost me an estimated $74,000 for my top choice and $40,000 for my distant second choice, yet upon completion, I will earn a whopping $10,000 more per year. If I have one more person ask me if I "like making the big bucks doing such an easy job" it will not go well for them.

    It is also really hard to hear so many "all instructors are evil" comments when you look at how much most of us care and how much we sacrifice to do what we love to do. I also work a 12 hour shift most weekends to supplement my pay and often full time in the summer.

    As for the shortage, I think the salaries pretty much explain that. If there were truth in advertising, a typical ad might look like this:

    "Come work at School "X" where your advanced degree and dedication will earn you even less than you could ever have imagined. Yes, my dears, you will earn far less than your students do upon graduation." Somewhere in the fine print it would need to mention that the job will be largely thankless, require long hours, and the ability to be both an expert in nursing and in education simultaneously.

    And who wouldn't beat down the door for that promise

    All kidding aside, 99% of the time I love my job and my students, I just think it's time that America in general starts placing a higher value and priority on education.

  • Jun 16 '11

    Quote from mindlor
    Title says it all . Second semester baby nurse in clinicals at a major hospital.

    Patients = Awesome
    Most Nurses = Very sweet and helpful

    Some nurses are rude, terse, horrible with patients, horrible with students and horrible with each other.

    To those nurses I say this, please retire.

    Its only a matter of time before management figures out they can live without you and hire some very hungry and very competent new grads that want to be there to fill your dusty shoes....

    word...

    sadly the vast majority of the time these happen to also be charge nurses....in charge of what? Misery?

    Hmmmm, well I guess my response would be this: Get out of nursing school. Become a NURSE, not a student, and don't try to judge the experienced nurses until you've walked a mile in their shoes. They may sound bitter and hateful, but more than likely they're just seasoned battle axes who've seen more than their share of the war. Yeah, I have worked around some hateful old nurses in ICU, but trust me when I say this...When my patient is going south, there is no one who knows their S*** more than some of these nurses. They've been around the block, and alllllllll the clinicals in the world is no match to real on the job training.

    my advise-nobody likes someone who's wet behind the ears trying to judge them. Again, walk a mile in their shoes, and then feel free to post the above if you still feel that way.

  • Jun 16 '11

    Classroom incivility is rampant, and I'm not sure if my instructors didn't notice or didn't care. It mainly affects other students, especially if they have a seat at the back of the room, where the distractions in front of them are too numerous to overcome. The main culprit in my classes was technology. I began sitting at the front because the distractions from other students who were texting, playing computer games, answering personal emails (rapid click, click, click of keyboards that weren't associated with note-taking), Facebooking, or IMing each other were irritating to me.

    Sometimes, I think instructors could ban computers in the classroom all together. I rarely used mine except on test days, and my grades did not suffer by using hand-written notes. Is it a coincidence that the top students in my class did not use technology inappropriately in class?

  • Jun 16 '11

    It's a sad and indisputable fact that our society is becoming increasingly rude and narcissistic. The emphasis now is on an individual's "rights," but not taking personal responsibility or accepting the consequences for one's actions and decisions. (Witness the sad behavior of some elected officials.) The vast majority of nursing students are professional, earnest, ethical, and carefully follow the policies of the nursing program. That said, there is a tiny minority of students whose behavior can be quite distressful for educators.

    Examples of incivility can be:

    • Making threats (whether explicit or implied)
    • Bullying
    • Rudeness and disrespect (e.g., use of cell phones and texting in class)
    • Sense of entitlement (e.g., demanding the instructor to do this or that)

    This is by no means an inclusive list.

    What are some practical strategies for educators to employ when confronted by these sorts of behaviors?
    • First and foremost, KNOW your learning institution's and nursing program's policies for student and faculty behavior (e.g., student handbook).
    • Enforce the policies by clearly and explicitly stating in your syllabus what student behaviors are expected and what behaviors will not be tolerated, along with the consequences.
    • Be consistent, professional, and impartial. Don't fall into the trap of reacting emotionally but take the time to carefully and thoughtfully respond.
    • Address the behavior immediately. Sometimes it's easier just to ignore unprofessional behavior, but be advised that such behavior rarely gets better on its own. In fact, the entire learning environment can rapidly disintegrate if the incivility is not dealt with.
    • Document, document, document.
    • Know and follow your chain of command.

    Since your syllabus is your learning contract between you and the learners, it is important to proactively address these types of situations. Here are some examples of clauses from my class syllabi at two different colleges:

    1. Students should be familiar with and follow the class etiquette rules. Students are expected to remain alert and respectfully attentive in class. Respect the faculty lecturer, other students, and the learning environment. No whispering or texting during lecture. No talking when someone else is speaking - one speaker at a time. Disruptive students may be asked to leave.

    2. Please turn all cell phones and beepers off prior to entering the classroom. Texting is expressly forbidden in class. Students found texting in class will be asked to leave.

    3. Personal laptops must be used to take notes during lectures. No surfing the Internet during class.

    Make sure that your use of laptop computers is strictly restricted to matters being discussed in class. While using your computers, take measures to avoid distraction for your fellow students. For example, turn off the sound. Make sure that cell phones are turned off when the class begins. A failure to do so may result in a grade of zero in class participation.

    Common courtesy is defined in the statements that follow: All cell phones or beepers must be turned off during class. Arrive on time, and stay for the entire class period. In this course, we begin with the assumption that the opinions, positions and perspectives of others are worthy of respect. At the same time, we will challenge one another to support and defend our viewpoints with clear and logical arguments. In all events, we treat persons with dignity and respect, even if we personally reject their views. If you need to leave the room at any time for toilet breaks, please close the door quietly after you.

    What have been your experiences with students displaying incivil or disruptive behavior? What has worked for you in dealing with these unpleasant situations? Students, we also welcome your perspectives. Thank you in advance.


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