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Joined Jan 22, '03. CoffeeRTC is a RN LTC. Posts: 3,574 (23% Liked) Likes: 1,589

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    ...and I'm the nurse that gets those patients admitted to my SNF for rehab....minus the Ativan, minus the Ambien, minus the Dilaudid/ Percocet/ Vicodin.

    Yep, they were on all of those in the morning and might have even got their prns that morning. Now it is 7pm and I'm in the middle of doing their admission. Try getting an order for any of those.

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    dogmom2016 and tnbutterfly like this.

    Do it!!! I've been an RN in LTC for ever, so I see where you are coming from. If you are worried about the less pay...you can probably pick up hours prn at your current facility or any other.

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    Quote from kbrn2002
    Sigh, yet another post blaming the LTC facility. Granted not all LTC's provide stellar care, but not all hospitals do either. I don't think it matters what the care setting is some places are great and others, well not so much. Not to mention that there are instances when that pressure ulcer is just about unavoidable due to a variety of reasons such as patient noncompliance and natural disease process.

    Case in point is Christopher Reeves. This was a relatively young man with the money and means to acquire the best care possible and yet he still developed a pressure ulcer, it was pretty widely reported at this time of death that complications related to this contributed to his death.

    Another case in point that I have first hand knowledge of is an elderly gentleman in my SNF. He is known to be noncompliant and suffers from dementia along with his multiple physical ailments. His noncompliance with cares involves striking and kicking at staff. He was hospitalized a few days. While we don't ever restrain a resident in our SNF the local hospital has no such restrictions and this gentleman had his feet and hands restrained during cares. When he returned he had a pressure ulcer on his heel that subsequently required surgical debridement and multiple rounds of ABX. Amazingly, with the good care we were able to provide this hospital acquired pressure ulcer eventually healed. It took months, but heal it we did.

    So rant over. I guess my point is that not all pressure ulcers can or should be blamed on a LTC facility. They can develop at home, in assisted living settings, in an acute care hospital and yes, in a LTC. No matter the living arrangements the root cause of a pressure ulcer is not always a matter of poor care.
    I can't agree more!!!

    One thing to note, is that if the discharge planners at the hospital get wind of a high pressure ulcer rate or falls or some other indicator of poor care at a facility..they can push admits somewhere else. I live in a very competitive area. There are many choices for LTC in our area.

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    spooner2014 likes this.

    Ruby Vee hit the nail on the head. Critical thinking....is asking why and what else? In LTC, you do more focused assessments and a lot of times you can miss the big picture. It is also about priorities. There are a million things to do, but if you have someone that needs meds, ivs, labs....those simple dressing changes are going to have to wait.

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    HyzenthlayLPN likes this.

    How big is your unit/ facility? I am in a 50 bed facility.

    MDS nurse should do just that. I can't imagine having enough time to do anything but MDS, care planning and updates for managed care.

    We have a referral manager/ admissions coordinator. This person does just that. They visit hospitals and make calls. They are more of a sales/ marketing person. Not a nurse.

    We have not admissions nurse. We try to staff with 3 nurses with the RN being the charge nurse and handling the admissions.

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    Definitely head over to the LTC section to read up. Report is going to be vastly different than acute care and will depend on two things. Has the nurse had the assignment before and are there new residents?

    New admits...They get more attention. I will give a complete head to toe report more like the hospital report. Age, past medical hx, significant info from the hospital stay, why admitted to our snf, LOC, diet order, meds whole or crushed, transfer status/ assistance needed, wounds, etc.

    Regular report...we go down the list/ hall/ room assignment. If there is anything new (labs, orders, falls, etc) then we list it. If not..we move on. Report and assessments are very focused.

    If I haven't worked in a while, I go in a few minutes early and check charts and get my own little report before actual report.

    My cheat sheet just lists room #, name and a section for notes.

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    Yep, you were right in this situation. The order said to call.

    You will learn the docs quirks. Some want called for every little thing and some will give you leeway. When in doubt, always call them. I'd much rather get chewed out than miss something on one of my residents.

    Do you have any more specific situations?

    If you haven't been over to the LTC forum...go on over and read through the threads!

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    If you do a google search you can find tons of information. The adaptic or oil emulsion dressings prevent the dressing from sticking to the wound. It might also trap drainage. If there is a lot of drainage, is the adaptic really necessary? It might be if the drainage dries. I like adaptic because of the mesh. It is more breathable than a vasaline gauze type of dressing.

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    Um, no. I''m only signing for the hours they came in to work.

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    As sad as this may sound, I wish there was this much scrutiny at my last job.

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    Sounds like a really tough situation. Won't most places keep the name of the person filing the abuse tip annon? At the very least, I would file the complaint. There will be a file or trail started even if the victim won't stand up. Maybe something will shake loose.

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    twinmommy+2 and amoLucia like this.

    I have to agree, he is probably weaker in the evenings and requires more assistance.

    How is he being taken care of when he is OOB all day?

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    I think the MAR is appropriate place to have it noted and boxed off. I think it should probably be more specific too "Call/ notify MD with an update on recent behaviors or xyz"

    I also place a note in our appointment book so that the desk nurse aka charge nurse is aware that a follow up needs done.

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    jessicaparks2511 likes this.

    Ask the MD what their reasoning is for refusing to manage the pain?

    In LTC we have a medical director we can go to for issues like this.

    Ethics committee?

    Get the family involved?

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    loriangel14 likes this.

    Pop the pills out of the bubble while checking against the MAR. Initial MAR, walk in room to give to patient. If they take all of them...good. If not, we circle initial and not on the back of the MAR why it wasn't given.


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