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IrishIzCPNP, BSN, MSN, RN, APRN, NP 10,761 Views

Joined Jul 25, '06 - from 'Somewhere over the rainbow...'. IrishIzCPNP is a MSN, CPNP-PC, IBCLC, RLC. She has 'A whole bunch...' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Pediatrics, High-Risk L&D, Antepartum, L'. Posts: 1,395 (34% Liked) Likes: 1,367

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  • Apr 18

    Quote from ana.saavedra14
    I guess parents want to experience the old ages when women would give birth at home.
    There was once this couple who were very holistic, they were both chiropractors. Mom never had any ultrasound, labs drawn, anything until it was time to deliver the baby at home.. Well she was past 40 weeks and wasn't going into labor. Thankfully the midwife nurse saw this as a red flag and decided to do an ultrasound... baby had CDH ended up passing away. They still said if they were to have another baby, they would do the same (meaning no ultrasounds).

    It's so hard not to judge because it is their decision... but that's why there is technology now, to find out what can be wrong with a baby and plan ahead of time!


    And the outcome would have been different had they known? Maybe not. Interventions also lead to issues and complications...but we try not to talk about that.

  • Apr 13

    Quote from ana.saavedra14
    I guess parents want to experience the old ages when women would give birth at home.
    There was once this couple who were very holistic, they were both chiropractors. Mom never had any ultrasound, labs drawn, anything until it was time to deliver the baby at home.. Well she was past 40 weeks and wasn't going into labor. Thankfully the midwife nurse saw this as a red flag and decided to do an ultrasound... baby had CDH ended up passing away. They still said if they were to have another baby, they would do the same (meaning no ultrasounds).

    It's so hard not to judge because it is their decision... but that's why there is technology now, to find out what can be wrong with a baby and plan ahead of time!


    And the outcome would have been different had they known? Maybe not. Interventions also lead to issues and complications...but we try not to talk about that.

  • Apr 13

    Quote from ana.saavedra14
    I guess parents want to experience the old ages when women would give birth at home.
    There was once this couple who were very holistic, they were both chiropractors. Mom never had any ultrasound, labs drawn, anything until it was time to deliver the baby at home.. Well she was past 40 weeks and wasn't going into labor. Thankfully the midwife nurse saw this as a red flag and decided to do an ultrasound... baby had CDH ended up passing away. They still said if they were to have another baby, they would do the same (meaning no ultrasounds).

    It's so hard not to judge because it is their decision... but that's why there is technology now, to find out what can be wrong with a baby and plan ahead of time!


    And the outcome would have been different had they known? Maybe not. Interventions also lead to issues and complications...but we try not to talk about that.

  • Apr 7

    Quote from BostonFNP

    I know several FNPs that work in WH and are quite successful. FNPs receive a sufficient amount of WH and prenatal training, while not the equivalent of a WHNP, FNPs can offer much to a WH practice.

    This is probably equal to the family doc who thinks he is the best choice to do a delivery.

    I cringe at the family doc who comes in for deliveries. Yes, he has some training but nothing compared to the OB.

    Same thing for WHNP and FNP. Sure he FNP has some training but it isn't to the level of the WHNP. I personally wouldn't see an FNP for my gyn care. The specialty exists and I would insist on a WHNP or a gyn.

    The practices around here only have WHNPs and not FNPs.

  • Apr 1

    You had an "initial contract" that spelled out a time frame? Probably not. I bet there's something about how they may make changed as necessary.

    Your best bet....grow up, move on and accept the change.

  • Mar 18

    Quote from cardiaccath456
    I think everyone can see that harm was done in this instance. But the gist of the article, and what I took from it was that mistakes happen, but you can rise above it. Hence the title, failure is an option. From what I have heard from every instructor that I have had, all nurses by the way, they have all made mistakes. And I don't see what me not being a nurse has anything to do with me being able to recognize harm. That was not the point of this post.


    The OP stated neither mom nor baby injured. Wrong. Not recognizing that they were injured/harmed is an issue. If the OP wants I come along and act like something was learned...it is important to acknowledge the harm that was done. You not being a nurse gives you a pass for not understanding the importance of knowing when you have caused an injury or harmed a patient. I don't take issue with what was done...but the statement that nobody was injured.

  • Mar 18

    Quote from cardiaccath456
    I thought the story was very inspirational. People make errors. It is pretty much a guarantee that you will make an error in your nursing practice. I would hope that others would be much more forgiving and less judgmental than you. Would you also sue pharmacy and the nurse assigned to the patient as well?



    You missed the point. The OP stated there was no harm from the mistake. That statement is wrong. There was harm. I was pointing out that the OP needs to see that there was harm...causing major abdominal surgery is harm. So inspirational story but a nurse who couldn't see the harm caused. This isn't about who I would sue but the inability to recognize fault and harm caused. You missed the point and the OP missed their fault...that is scary.

  • Mar 18

    Great story but I have one issue...

    You said nobody was harmed when you hung the insulin. Wrong. Mom and baby were harmed. They had a significant drop in blood glucose and mom had a c-section because of it. She had major abdominal surgery and baby did not experience normal birth. She may have been at risk for a section prior to your mistake but that doesn't mean the section was okay. So there was harm and it is really important you know that.

    I would have been livid if I was a patient and had a section because of your mistake. I assure you...that mistake would have haunted you if I was the patient and I'm not a law suit person (kid with CP and I wouldn't dream of suing and I have a foreign body in me from medical care and again I opted to not sue). You did cause harm. Period.

  • Mar 14

    That isn't really a home birth gone wrong. That is a case of poor decision making. Safe home births are exactly that...safe and usually safer than in the hospital. If a mom makes a poor choice against medical advice it doesn't mean that choice is wrong for everyone.

  • Feb 29

    That isn't really a home birth gone wrong. That is a case of poor decision making. Safe home births are exactly that...safe and usually safer than in the hospital. If a mom makes a poor choice against medical advice it doesn't mean that choice is wrong for everyone.

  • Feb 26

    That isn't really a home birth gone wrong. That is a case of poor decision making. Safe home births are exactly that...safe and usually safer than in the hospital. If a mom makes a poor choice against medical advice it doesn't mean that choice is wrong for everyone.

  • Feb 26

    That isn't really a home birth gone wrong. That is a case of poor decision making. Safe home births are exactly that...safe and usually safer than in the hospital. If a mom makes a poor choice against medical advice it doesn't mean that choice is wrong for everyone.

  • Feb 26

    Quote from Emergent
    I want to revive this thread to get your input. There is a gal at work with whom I'm friendly. We are both counterculture on health management, as I mentioned earler, I had my children at home. I'm not extremist, but grew up in a very healthy conscious home, avoid processed foods, get exercise, and generally distrust the medical establishment, etc.

    She texted me about midwife references a couple of weeks ago, I asked around and gave her some. It turns out, she is the pregnant one! The thing of it is, she's 57 yrs old. She has 5 grown kids, is raising a couple of grandkids, and is in a relatively new marriage.

    Now, I'll mention, this gal is someone I admire, for her stamina, energy, positivity, commitment to health etc. She appears the picture of health, but has had cardiac problems, has a pacemaker, I think she had a valve replacement, did a lot of self healing she told me. She looks 40. She's planning a homebirth I've heard.

    How can I effectively approach her?


    I don't think she has to be outside of midwifery care but....she's not getting a home birth! She may very well get a midwife in a hospital setting with great MD coverage but that's it. There's no way. I don't think you have to really approach it. I would give her names and they will handle it. You could also easily tell her that you aren't sure they will take her but maybe hey will and maybe they will consider her for a hospital birth. Not your responsibility to deny the care...let the midwife do it.

  • Feb 26

    Quote from Emergent
    I want to revive this thread to get your input. There is a gal at work with whom I'm friendly. We are both counterculture on health management, as I mentioned earler, I had my children at home. I'm not extremist, but grew up in a very healthy conscious home, avoid processed foods, get exercise, and generally distrust the medical establishment, etc.

    She texted me about midwife references a couple of weeks ago, I asked around and gave her some. It turns out, she is the pregnant one! The thing of it is, she's 57 yrs old. She has 5 grown kids, is raising a couple of grandkids, and is in a relatively new marriage.

    Now, I'll mention, this gal is someone I admire, for her stamina, energy, positivity, commitment to health etc. She appears the picture of health, but has had cardiac problems, has a pacemaker, I think she had a valve replacement, did a lot of self healing she told me. She looks 40. She's planning a homebirth I've heard.

    How can I effectively approach her?


    I don't think she has to be outside of midwifery care but....she's not getting a home birth! She may very well get a midwife in a hospital setting with great MD coverage but that's it. There's no way. I don't think you have to really approach it. I would give her names and they will handle it. You could also easily tell her that you aren't sure they will take her but maybe hey will and maybe they will consider her for a hospital birth. Not your responsibility to deny the care...let the midwife do it.

  • Feb 26

    Quote from Emergent
    I want to revive this thread to get your input. There is a gal at work with whom I'm friendly. We are both counterculture on health management, as I mentioned earler, I had my children at home. I'm not extremist, but grew up in a very healthy conscious home, avoid processed foods, get exercise, and generally distrust the medical establishment, etc.

    She texted me about midwife references a couple of weeks ago, I asked around and gave her some. It turns out, she is the pregnant one! The thing of it is, she's 57 yrs old. She has 5 grown kids, is raising a couple of grandkids, and is in a relatively new marriage.

    Now, I'll mention, this gal is someone I admire, for her stamina, energy, positivity, commitment to health etc. She appears the picture of health, but has had cardiac problems, has a pacemaker, I think she had a valve replacement, did a lot of self healing she told me. She looks 40. She's planning a homebirth I've heard.

    How can I effectively approach her?


    I don't think she has to be outside of midwifery care but....she's not getting a home birth! She may very well get a midwife in a hospital setting with great MD coverage but that's it. There's no way. I don't think you have to really approach it. I would give her names and they will handle it. You could also easily tell her that you aren't sure they will take her but maybe hey will and maybe they will consider her for a hospital birth. Not your responsibility to deny the care...let the midwife do it.


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