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Joined Jun 18, '01 - from 'Wisconsin'. kbrn2002 is a RN Supervisor. She has '20' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Geriatrics'. Posts: 2,318 (68% Liked) Likes: 5,276

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    Wow, Big Brother is watching? That's one of the most intrusive ideas I've heard. I can just bet there is absolutely no end goal of making the nurses shifts easier. Administration wouldn't implement this unless there is someway to offset the cost by padding their bottom line.

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    Julius Seizure likes this.

    Quote from Orion81RN
    Hmm as an avid Grey's watcher, I need to go back and find where they said he was Chief of Staff like Cuddy in House. Not doubting you, just surprised I missed that after my millionth binge.

    Oh, and surgeons run the ED too lol. Instead of having ED staff who then call surgery for consult.
    Sadly I love Grey's despite the obvious medical flaws. I would love to see that hospital where the surgeons run the ED, surgery, the clinic, etc. I love that the same MD that see's a pt in the ER is suddenly leaving the ER and doing a complicated surgery on the ER patient that just came in. So who took over their job in the ER? And the nurses [or lack thereof]! I am trying to remember and the only story line that I can think of where nurses figured prominently was when George caught an STD from a nurse and it turned out the STD was practically an epidemic among the doc's since they were of course all having sex with the infected nurse.

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    Davey Do, brownbook, and TriciaJ like this.

    When my daughter was maybe 15 or 16 I literally had to chase her around the exam room and corner her before the nurse could give her a flu shot. I was mortified. The kid finally caved and gave up after a few laps around the room.

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    Cat365, winniewoman9060, Crush, and 2 others like this.

    This thread didn't go the direction you wanted did it? So to maybe get on track of sharing examples I have a couple. We have a scheduler that thinks she's everybody's boss. Has her nose in nursing business that she knows literally nothing about, calls the weekend and after hours supervisors out for on on-the-fly scheduling decisions that were made to cover last minute call offs despite the fact that making those types of scheduling decisions is part of the nursing supervisor's job and not hers. Oh, and while she calls out the supervisor for performing the job she doesn't supply the after hours or weekend staff with her cell phone number so she can be reached. I'm thinking if she wants to make ALL decisions she should be called no matter the hour or day to make those decisions.

    Second example is kind of opposite what you are complaining about. We have a particularly bossy CNA that has no problem ordering the RN around. Thing is, she's been a CNA for 30 years and knows her stuff, so the RN usually does what she says. She's never steered us wrong yet and has in fact caught some things that the nurse would've otherwise missed. So nurses, especially those working LTC listen to your CNA's. With so many residents there's no way the nurse can adequately assess everything every day. Those good, observant and vocal CNA's can literally be lifesavers.

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    Quote from whistlewhileuworkRN
    Where I work being a good employee, switching shifts, putting in the extra effort doesn't get you a raise. We do not get annual raises with our yearly reviews. We had a new company buy us out which resulted in a 2% wage increase for me. They decided to double our insurance premiums so it's all for nothing anyway.
    Exactly this. We were bought out by a new company resulting in a significant raise. Yippee! Followed by WTH??? They took away shift differentials, bonuses, charge pay and raised the insurance premium by 20%. Now I net about the same to a little less than before the raise.

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    h00tyh00t and xoemmylouox like this.

    Some residents have the greatest, most supportive families. Others have families that are just a pain in our backsides, but at least those families pretend to be involved. Then we have the residents whose families live around the corner and never, ever take a moment to visit. These are also always the families that complain the fastest and loudest if something happens that actually requires their attention.

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    If you ace the interview for the new job I doubt they will want to wait out a 1 month notice so give the standard 2 weeks and don't feel bad about that. It sounds like it wouldn't matter if you gave them no notice or 3 months notice they probably wouldn't have a replacement plan in place anyway. Their failure to hire a replacement in time for you to help train somebody is not your fault, no need to feel guilty on your part. But out of common professional courtesy do give that 2 weeks notice and stick to it.

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    I'm from the great white north where we are more than equipped for this weather. What are all you southern folk doing to deal with the snow? It's not like you have city plows or sanding trucks to clear the roads and I doubt if many of you have snow shovels in the garage.

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    I just wish our current staffing would allow for an actual preceptor. We have been pairing a new orientee with a nurse that has been employed for less than 3 months because she was the only nurse scheduled that day that regularly works the shift. She's good, but she's new herself. We have a few experienced nurses that have a less than positive attitude, the only thing a new orientee gets from them is a bunch of complaining while the orientee does all the work. Now I'm all for hands on learning, but that shouldn't mean the orientee works while the training nurse watches, complains about work and gossips about other staff.

    Sigh, now I'm off to work myself so everybody have a great day!

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    Elaine M and Here.I.Stand like this.

    Quote from NuGuyNurse2b
    With some places, the turnaround in staff is so great, you have some poor experienced nurse precepting a new nurse every few months. So now that same nurse is taking anywhere from 8-12 weeks precepting an orientee, gets another orientee after the previous one is let loose on the floor, only to find out in 6mos-1yr later that all that time and energy went down the drain cause the new nurse quit. Can't fault that nurse for feeling burned.
    Exactly this. For every 6 nurses we hire if we are lucky 1 will stay past orientation. This latest rotation of new hires we had 1 quit the day before orientation started, 4 quit after 1 day and only 1 stuck it out. She's been there less than a month and has already been mandated twice, bumped to an unfamiliar unit at least 3 times and had her first check short by 12 hours because payroll has to manually enter her time and they missed a whole shift. Frankly I wouldn't be at all surprised if she's putting out other applications.

    Of course in LTC the orientation process is nothing like the hospitals get. An experienced LTC nurse will probably get 3 shifts, a newer nurse double that. In rare cases a new hire might get a couple weeks. 8-12 weeks orientation is unheard of. And people wonder why there's such massive turnover.

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    Kitiger likes this.

    Quote from Ruby Vee
    It's probably happened to a lot of people you know; you just don't know about it. I'm willing to bet that at least 1 in 4 of the people you know have been harassed in a big way, something that would result in felony charges or in the toppling of a privileged male from his tower. And I'll bet MOST of the women you know have been subject to uncomfortable and unwelcome advances. They may not have told you about it for a number of reasons, but the first one that springs to mind is that you don't seem open to hearing about it.

    Never had a married male doctor invite you to dinner because "the wife is out of town"? Never had a physician put his arm around your shoulders and "accidentally" brush your breast with his fingers? Never had a prominent physician tell you "You'd be really pretty if . . ."? or tell you to smile more? (Never hears them tell the male nurses to smile more.) Never had someone stand too close to you on an elevator, in the OR, in rounds? Never had anyone grab your ass or pinch you as a "joke"? Never had one loom over you as you're charting and tell you about how he's had fantasies about nurses? Never had someone rub his crotch over your ass as you're standing on the subway, trying to pretend this isn't happening? Never been described as "the one with the biggest knockers" by a male colleague? Never had a cop tell you he'd tear up your speeding ticket in return for sexual favors? Never been called out (while a news crew is taping an interview of Dr. WorldFamousInfectiousDiseaseSpecialist) for being over weight -- as if that were any of his business or his concern.

    The list is endless, and I'm willing to bet that MOST women have suffered from sexual harassment. The thing is, we were always told it wasn't that big of a deal and we should just get over it. Now we're being told differently.
    Honestly. No I've never had anything like that happen. Worst thing I've dealt with is a drunk in a bar, though that was bad enough. I guess I have been fortunate that the men I've worked with have been good men. It probably helps that I have been with the same employer over 20 years and harassment is definitely not tolerated there. I'm not saying that nobody I work with hasn't been harassed but I am still pretty sure that it didn't happen at our workplace. Heck, the place is such a gossip mill that I'm fairly certain word would have gotten around. Seems like in this place most people are pretty open with revealing personal information no matter how bad.

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    As long as you can afford school you are not anywhere near too old. Especially not as you would like to go into education and that is fortunately an area of nursing that you can realistically work in for many more years than you would be physically able to as a floor nurse.

    If you are particularly interested in teaching CNA classes check with the local schools what the requirements are. You might find yourself pleasantly surprised as I qualify to teach the clinical portion of the class with my lowly ADN. A friend of mine teaches and she's been trying to recruit me for years, sadly that's not where my interest is. Since that is where your interest is you might be qualified to teach some components of the course now, you could get your feet wet and decide if you really like it before pursuing full time teaching as a career.

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    Hair testing is way more expensive than urine testing so I don't think very many employers utilize it as a pre-employment drug screen. If you run into one that does I don't think they take hair from anyplace where it's loss would be obvious. Best of luck on your job hunt and Congrats on being a survivor, that alone is reason to celebrate!

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    Paws2people, JKL33, and futurebsn92 like this.

    A CNA job is related to nursing, but I speak from experience and trust me it's not nearly the same thing. A CNA position might be a foot in the door to a nursing position when you finish school but there is certainly no guarantee that you'll be hired as a nurse just because you were a CNA with the facility. So don't put off school just for a CNA job no matter how prestigious the facility is.

    If there is a wait list to get into your preferred nursing program go ahead and work as a CNA while you finish those prereqs. If school is close to work by all means work as a CNA at least part time while going to school. Believe me it's not impossible, most of the people I went to school with worked during school as we actually needed an income.

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    rn1965 likes this.

    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    I think that mental illness and addiction should be treated as diseases and have medically appropriate treatment applied by as medical professional. This is not what we get in these cases. In your case you have been diagnosed with a mental health disease. I doubt very much that sending you to substance abuse treatment, making you go to 12 step meetings and screwing your career is part of any treatment a non-biased medical professional would deem appropriate. Even for people with substance abuse disorders the idea of adding all this unnecessary stress to their lives is counterproductive. Isn't recovery supposed to restore lives for people can live to their full potential and happiness? All this seems to be missed by these programs. This ignores the fact that (in my opinion) recovery is a personal decision which is not imposed on an individual by a 3rd party. Like I say all the time. I'm not in recovery. I do what I must to keep my livelihood but none of this is, or would be by choice. I think this is why so many people in this program count the days down until they can have control of their lives again. If this was real recovery people would be relishing in the experience or at least accepting it as their choice. What I've experienced is people who are counting down the days until they can have an "I'm done with this BS party" that will most likely include copious amounts of mind altering substances. True 12 step & recovery praise every day of their sobriety. For me its just another step on a long road that I don't want to be on.
    While I have no personal experience in this I've known a few people both nurses and not that have gone through court ordered or BON ordered treatment and you are absolutely correct in saying it doesn't work. For treatment to truly be successful the individual going through it needs to want it to be successful. Being forced to do it doesn't accomplish a damn thing except sucking up those limited treatment slots thereby refusing entry to somebody that really wants the help.

    Case in point is a nurse I worked with whose husband felt he needed inpatient therapy for his addiction. Because all local treatment options had a wait list of literally years since all their openings were taken by people going through court ordered programs he opted to attend a program several hundred miles away. We lost a good nurse when she quit to be closer to him during during his recovery. In the meantime just about every person in treatment locally is jumping through the legal hoops imposed on them by somebody else and counting the days until they can get back to their normal lives.


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