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Thanks for the great reply!What's the difference btwn admit institution & accept applicant,as noted in the earlier post?Since you're taking 15 credits,(p.s. how many classes does that boil down to and since it's grad school, is it that there are more exams or lengthier papers,since I'd read in a previous post that CNL classes are basically cloaked BSN classes,only with longer papers-any truth to this?)?)how many days a week do you go to class,how big are the class sizes,and when do you start doing clinicals?
Oh,and since textbooks I imagine will be a killer,do you have any smart tips for getting cheap textbooks(e.g. renting them, library borrowing etc?)
Thanks a bunch,cookiemonstress!
See Grey Lady's post regarding admit institution/accept applicant.
OK here is the breakdown in terms of classes this semester.
NURS 503: Health Assessment, 3 credits. Class meets Mondays 8 am - 11 am
NURS 505: Intro to Professional Nursing Practice (AKA Fundamentals or Fundies), 4 credits. Class meets Tuesdays 8:30 am - 10:20 am
NURS 507: Context of Healthcare delivery and Intro to the CNL role, 3 credits. Class meets Tuesdays 11 am - 2:00 pm
NURS 501: Pathophysiology/Pharmacology, 5 credits. Class meets Fridays 8:30 - 11:00 and 12:30 - 3:00
NURS 622: Systems and Populations in Healthcare, 3 credits. This is an online class and you will only take it first semester if you are a 16 month student. Otherwise, you will take it later on in the program.
Both NURS 503 and 505 have lab components, 2 hours for each class per week. The way it worked this semester is that you have lab either on Wednesday or Thursday. The day that you do not have lab is your day off. You usually spend your day off catching up on work/studying or you can spend that time in open lab. While I am on the topic of open lab, I must say that going to open lab will be critical to your success this semester. I am sure you will hear more about this at orientation, but you are tested on your lab skills during a process called "validation." Basically you go into the simulation lab and you are given a scenario that asks you to perform certain clinical skills (wound care, injections, IVs, foleys, etc.). You are then videotaped as you perform the skills. Your instructor will watch back your video and then grade your performance accordingly. Open lab is a necessity since you do not have adequate time during the scheduled lab sessions to properly learn all the skills and become proficient in performing the skills.
NURS 503, 505, and 501 are combined classes with both BSNs and CNLs. NURS 507 is a CNL only class. NURS 622 is an online class that all graduate students take, so it is possible that you may have NP and CNS students in your section as well as other CNLs.
NURS 507 has 2 papers and a midterm. Not sure how many papers NURS 622 requires, but I know my 16 month friends just finished writing an extensive paper for that class. NURS 501 has a 10 page case study that the BSNs are not required to complete. NURS 505 has a short CNL leadership paper at the end of the semester. NURS 503 does not have any extra papers. Generally, you will be writing a lot of papers throughout the course of the entire program.
In addition to the extra papers, CNLs are held to a general higher standard than the BSNs. For example, CNLs are required to have an 80% average to pass each class. I think BSNs only need a 70%. This is just one thing that I can think of right now.
Try to buy used textbooks online. I know that there are a lot of required books, but you will definitely use them this semester and in subsequent semesters. It is well worth the investment. I bought my books on Amazon, only because I have a prime student membership. I am sure Ebay/Half.com has good prices on books as well.
You only have clinicals for NURS 505 during the first semester. You don't start clinicals until the beginning/mid-November and you only have 4 clinical days (8 hours each day).
There are approximately 50 first semester CNLs and I think about 80-90 BSNs (not sure about the BSN stat).
Hope I covered all of your questions!