Ugh---I have to fire an employee tomorrow.

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Without a doubt, the single most unpleasant aspect of my job as a DON in assisted living is employee discipline. I HATE having to 'punish' people for being human and doing stupid things at work, even when it's richly deserved---probably comes from having been an "abused" employee myself.

Tomorrow, I have to let go a staff member who's been at the facility for years. He is a middle-aged man with adult ADD who has had a troubled employment history, although he IS a good caregiver and obviously loves the residents. However, his slacking and a stinky attitude over the past couple of months, plus three no-call-no-shows in less than two weeks, are more than even I can tolerate, so I have made the decision to terminate him.......went through all the proper channels with the HR director at our parent organization, documented everything, and got his final paycheck and termination letter delivered to my office at 5 o'clock this afternoon.

And even though I know I'm doing the right thing, not only for the residents but for staff who have been inconvenienced by this employee's failure to show up on multiple occasions and his "forgetting" that he can't walk in and immediately take a half-hour break, I feel so sad about having to fire him.

It's HARD being the bad guy, I tell you. I enjoy leading and teaching employees, not calling them into my office to criticize them or writing them up........Thankfully most of my staff are hard workers who care deeply about the residents and do the best they can, but there is always the occasional worker who's in it just for the paycheck and couldn't care less if he or she were taking care of human beings or flipping burgers. And it's sad to see someone who used to be a tender and competent caregiver become so burned out that it's impossible to reach him and try to pull him back from the edge before he alienates everyone on both sides of the bed rails.

Believe me, this is not a rash act; for one thing, he has a disability, and I think he's going through a bad patch in his personal life. But I've tried to get through to this over-aged ten-year-old for months now, and I've thought through every possible remedy before deciding he needs to go.

So, how do other nurse managers deal with firing staff members? Do you ever get used to it? I've been a mid-level manager in different settings, but this is the first job I've ever had in which I call the shots on hiring, firing, and promotions. I tend NOT to wield authority with an iron fist---which has sometimes led to accusations that I'm 'too nice' and let people get away with things they shouldn't---and it's very difficult for me to do it when I have to.

Thanks for any advice or words of wisdom. I know this has to be done for the good of everyone involved---maybe even the employee himself---but it sure isn't fun.:o

Sorry about what happened to you, ren. I've seen the same thing myself in more than one line of work. It happened to me once. I was put in a position to replace two people and once things started to turn around, they got rid of me. Didn't make me feel any better knowing that I was only being used as a pawn.

Something I learned when managing an assisted living and had to deal with poor performing employees. Just because you have to let someone go does not mean they are not a good person, they just are not the right person for this job. It does not mean a different job doing something else would fit them beter , I always told them that this job is just not a good fit for you and that does not make you a bad person. I beleieve you will find a job that is a better fit for you. They seemed to at least feel better when you let them know they are not an awefull person.

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.

It is never easy to fire anyone especially if you know they have problems at home or are well liked despite their shortcomings. I had a supply clerk whom everyone disliked. He was always on time, didn't call out, but had anger management issues. The nurses were forever coming to me to complain about him. I wrote him up...followed the company policy about progressive discipline and even arranged for him to go to anger management classes. He was okay for a while and then screamed at a nurse and threw something at her. Needless to say, I had to terminate him. The next day, the same nurses who had complained about him couldn't understand why I fired him.

A word of caution...NEVER terminate someone by yourself. Always have HR or the ED or someone in the room with you. And if you can, sit behind a desk. I know a DNS who fired someone...they appeared calm and said okay. They they walked over to her and kicked her so hard she ended up with a fractured leg!!!

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

I hear ya.......I've learned that it's best to have a witness when you have to discipline or terminate an employee, and to document events right afterwards when your memory of events is still fresh!

Honestly, this is the part of my job that I just hate with a pink and purple passion---I know what it's like to be on the other side of the desk.:(

You have to set policies in place and follow them to the letter. In my facility, everyone knows that only ONE no call/no show and you're terminated. Don't even try to come back and plea your case.

You have to set policies in place and follow them to the letter. In my facility, everyone knows that only ONE no call/no show and you're terminated. Don't even try to come back and plea your case.

Now thats interesting remark considering rule of law hmm

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.
Now thats interesting remark considering rule of law hmm

What law? We are mostly 'at will' employees and the boss doesn't really need to jump through hoops to fire us.

Specializes in acute care and geriatric.

Hi Y'all, Sometimes being fired is the best thing that can happen to a person especially if he is behaving in a way that is begging for it- even if he doesn't know it - he wants to be fired- What you can do is explain in a nonjudgemental fashion what he is doing that caused the decision, and what he can do to hold onto his next job. I've never had a problem firing an employee who is nopt doing the job as i just think of the poor clients who will never be abused by this employee again (to not show and not call in and leave the unit short staffed- in my book is abuse to the client...) Most of the time they appreciate the frank talk and thank me for my time and ( I stress) we part as friends. If they go violently- then that is a reflection of why I needed to fire them to begin with. All the best,

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