Are LPN's being phased out? - page 4
by JSlovex2 70,426 Views | 232 Comments
I know people have been saying for years that everyone would need a BSN and LPN's would be a thing of the past, etc. Well, so far, where I work (a large, magnet hospital) there are still many, many nurses without a BSN -but there... Read More
- 0Apr 22, '11 by Nccity2002Quote from JSlovex2I live in Orange County, California and in my ten years career span, I had worked in many facilities around the area (either as registry or a traveler). I had only been in one hospital in this area that uses LPNs in the acute setting. In this area, most facilities are either Magnet or in the process of applying for it, plus primary nursing is mainly used around this area... these may be contributing factors for the lack of LPNs around this area. To answer your question, no...my facility does not employ LPNs.I know people have been saying for years that everyone would need a BSN and LPN's would be a thing of the past, etc. Well, so far, where I work (a large, magnet hospital) there are still many, many nurses without a BSN -but there are veeery few LPN's. I attended a meeting last week where my supervisor was lecturing RNs about signing off on LPN's charts and she mentioned that there are very few LPN's and even mentioned that some of those LPN's are about to graduate to be RN's. I overheard other RNs in the cafeteria complaining about LPN's basically saying, "what's the point when we have to go behind them."
They are definitely being phased out where I work. They aren't hiring LPN's anymore although the ones who are there aren't getting fired or anything. What is it like where you work? Do you think LPN's have a future?
- 3Apr 23, '11 by OgopogoLPNNot in Canada. There are hundreds of LPNs who work in acute care in my own mid sized hospital. And every hospital. There is constantly new training (paid by the employer!!) and new areas of specialty being opened up to us.
I personally know 4 LPNs who just completed the OR course and are now certified as OR nurses. Another 3 who just completed hemodialysis training and will be working as hemo nurses. All LPNs. All employer paid training and paid practicums.
We just got another email this past week to invite us to apply for paid training in mental health, emergency room, perinatal and nephrology specialties.
The future is bright for us!
- 0Apr 23, '11 by Hutchen UpshawHello everyone. Im one of those LPN's with years of experience. Once wanted to be a nurse anesthesist. After children and so many setbacks Im happy if Im able to obtain an associate in nursing. I do plan on futhering my education now that my children are grown. After an associate in nursing I will be studying business though. Ive had the opportunity to make a good living and learning experiences that a lot of RNs dont even have a clue. A lot of overtime. Not challenging a education, but every one has some worth in this profession. The pressure evolving around who's the most educated to a man is unbeleivable. As a LPN having a kid (some new grads and some not) checking behind me to be nasty is a insult. Again some dont even have a clue. But because of a formal education and the title of RN its acceptable. Ive had jobs, serious and very good jobs for any career. Where the RNs would be disgruntle and take it out on the LPN. Why let non RNs perform RN jobs. Number one reason is its cheaper. Number two somebody has to do it. Not challenging a education, nothing more greater. LPNs take a lot of cheap shots, and again from what I seen every one is of value in this profession. If working within their scope or not. As with any production line and a demand for output is requested. Some instead of addressing the problem tend to lean on the weaker. If one could only walk in another shoe's and imagine the pressure surrounding being a good LPN and working so called RN positions. I dont think LPNs are being phased out. I also think there would be more LPN going for their RN. Well in my case, job security is important and from a wholistic veiw. Dont know actually how it came to this, but I do have some idea. With all do respect and never challenging an education, it is a production line and someone has to do it. So dont be upset when ask to do your job. You are educated in the field and the RNs. Just remember with all production lines their is a demand for produtivity. I never complain, I really <3 nursing. The bussier the better. All respect to the guru, everybody know's the one. The informal leader (super nurse) that runs the floor.
- 1Apr 23, '11 by Nurseykins76Quote from realnursealso/LPNSounds like yet another insulting, flaming post. Your reasoning is baseless, one hospital out of how many? LPN/LVN's ARE NOT BEING PHASED OUT! Go find some other fairytale rumor. I do high tech pediatric homecare, guess what? They do not want RN's to do my cases, because LPN's are just as capable and the rate per hour is less. Your hospital may not hire LPN's, it doesn't mean we are being wiped off the face of the earth. Please do valid research before stating things that you perceive to be true.
I am a REGISTERED PRACTICAL NURSE which is your equivalent to an LPN only us RPN's work under pretty much the same scope as an RN with FEW differences besides two years of school, we are NOT going anywhere. Ty for standing up for us RPN's aka LPN'sLast edit by Nurseykins76 on Apr 23, '11 : Reason: agree with the poster
- 0Apr 23, '11 by anotheroneI work at a huge teaching hospital that employees a lot of LPNs. I hate when they are not "allowed" to do something and I have to do it when I can barely keep up somedays. They get short changed because they are given a similar assignment to the RNs but get paid a lot less. THan the RNs have to give the IV push meds, blood, etc..... i guess the point is that it costs the hospital a lot less.
- 0Apr 23, '11 by anotheroneQuote from mazyActually baby sitting the CNAs is one part of my job I especially dislike. When they don't do THE JOB THEY ARE PAID TO DO, I have to do it and waste time trailign after them. I don 't like giving certain meds LPNs can't give to pts that aren't mine and would prefer if my facility went to all RNs. I do respect the LPNs I work with just like I respect the RNs and frankly they get paid a lot less for the same job essentially.I guess I am most ticked off by this comment. And the attitude. RNs do not babysit LPNs. LPNs are members of a team effort who have specific job duties that in doing them frees up the RNs to do their specific job duties. By this same logic I could say that as an LPN I'm sick of having to go "behind" the CNAs and make sure they do their jobs, and how much that sucks because I can't handle my responsibilities because I always have to be watching them.
I don't have to "babysit" them; I respect the job they do and recognize that I couldn't do MY job if it weren't for them.
I've worked in the hospital setting and I can tell you that we LPNs run ourselves ragged, not only trying to do our jobs of passing meds, monitoring patients, monitoring lab values and vital signs so as not to give the patient a med that needs to be d/c or changed, doing trach and vent and PEG care, doing wound treatments, dealing with supply issues, talking to patients and families, filtering information to the appropriate people, charting, AND helping the CNAs, AND helping RNs and notifying them of patient issues so that they can do their jobs better.
If they have to sign off on it, so be it, that is their job. We're a team.
And the same holds true in SNFs and LTCs, except the number of LPNs is greater and the scope of practice much more broad. And also, a lot of RNs wouldn't deign to work in those facilities.
I'm also going to say that I think this quote represents a minority view among RNs. The majority of the RNs that I've worked with and spoken to and seen on this site respect the hard work that LPNs do.