Are LPN's being phased out? - page 7

I know people have been saying for years that everyone would need a BSN and LPN's would be a thing of the past, etc. Well, so far, where I work (a large, magnet hospital) there are still many, many... Read More

  1. by   Lee J A
    I personally do not think LPN's are being phased out but rather "phased back". Do you realize that Medical Assistants with recent schooling are taught phlebotomy and medication administration!! and for $12.00/hr!! For some companies it is more profitable to hire MA's. In certain settings like an LTC an LPN will always be needed but hospitals and office settings are changing.
  2. by   shellyjel
    I am a fairly new LPN, going on 2 years. Have only worked LTC but hear those rumors all the time. I didn' t want to do LTC and wonder from the sounds of comments if there is any chances of LPNs w/out Med/Surg experience and years behind it have any hope of hospital work. I am in beginning stages of working on ADN. However, I am 54 ( yea old!). Healthy and need to work, but wonder if it will do any good to get my school and be hired at that age as a new grad? Any thoughts would be appreciated!!
  3. by   tabhow52
    Not at the VA in Northern Cal. we aren't. I feel respected and appriciated working in mental health here. There are lots of LVN's at the VA. Great retirement and good benefits. The mental health RN's are a great team to work with. No so in other LVN job's i've had. Evil RN's and some nice. I beleive some feel threatened and jealous that they have more paper work and less patient contact than they do.
  4. by   olufemi254
    Quote from realnursealso/lpn
    i am angry. if you do a search on allnurses, you will find hundreds of threads with the same topic. i have been an lpn since 1980, and a member of allnurses for over 10 years. i've never been without work, never had trouble finding a job in what ever area i chose. the term "phasing out", implies that lpn's are no longer going to exist. in february of 1979, when i started my lpn program, i began to hear this fairytale. here it is, over 30 years later, and lpn's are still here and going strong. lpn's aren't going anywhere, and it will never be a hospital that decides if our profession exists or not. have a blessed easter everyone.
    yes, i think people should add not out of a profession as a whole but possibly out of hospitals. otherwise it does come across as a bit inflammatory.
  5. by   olufemi254
    Quote from Isabelle49
    I don't think LPN's will ever be phased out as long as medicine is run as a business, in most cases, for profit. Most medical businesses, hospitals, clinics, doc offices, home health, ALf's, etc. have LPN's instead of RNs because it is cost saving.

    I have frequently said I wish I could trade in my RN for LPN. I would have a much easier career life.
    Do you mind telling us why you think your career life would've been much easier as an LPN.
  6. by   tabhow52
    Maybe so and a WHOLE lot less money in your pocket!
  7. by   muffylpn
    My mom started hearing in in1972
  8. by   agibbon
    LPN are definately being phased out in my facility as we moved to become more "acute" in the wake of Medicaid reform. We have to keep re-inventing ourself in order to continue to offer needed services without the trip to the hospital or other outside entities, i.e. dialysis, blood transfusions, PICC line insertions, specilaized wound care, etc. Although LPNs are not being terminated, they are not being replaced when they resign. Our facility is also interested in hiring RNs at the BSN level. We are also moving towards becoming ANCC certified in gerontology. I started out my career as an LPN and took the "threat" of being phased out seriously. I returned to school during my first year of being an LPN and obtained an associate degree RN. In light of the legislation pushing RNs to have at minimum a BSN, I too entered school to complete my BSN. While LPNs are of immense value, I encourage all to return to school and get the credit for what they already do in most places as well at the status!
  9. by   tiroka03
    Quote from JSlovex2
    this is exactly the attitude i've seen lately. with RNs working short staffed, they are tired of "babysitting" the LPN's so to speak. at one time, there were enough RNs on the floor that it wasn't such a big deal for them to "cover" the LPNs, but now - they're lucky to get their "own job" finished without having to go behind a LPN. i've even seen brand new grads be charge nurses over LPNs who have years of experience. it just makes no logical or financial sense.
    Whoa, babysitting LPNs? I take exception to that. I find in LTC, that LPN's do a whole lot more RN babysitting than you think. It has to do with work ethic, and both RN's and LPN's can have poor work ethic's. Please don't go spreading your misconceptions around this site. I have seen many, many lazy, incompentent RN's in the hospital setting as well as LTC. I find lots of RN's have an attitude about how superior they are, I say then if you think that is true - prove it by being superior. Do your job well, stop all the complaining. As a LPN I don't need or want your special attention, in fact it would be an insult. I can hold my own, and do your job as well as mine. Most LPNS get a higher patient load, and more demanding patients - you know, the ones you RN's don't want. So, if you were ever to see an LPN struggling, the first question you need to ask yourself is, did I dump on the LPN - AGAIN?
  10. by   Lee J A
    I am in the same boat as you, an LPN, 47 years old and back in school working on RN. We still have many years in the workforce so if you get your RN you will potentially have 20 years with additional income. RN's get paid so much more money and I wouldn't worry if you just get your associates because there is more jobs for RN's with associates than jobs for lpn's. I am taking all the additional courses to go towards my BSN because I hear that you can take most classes for BSN on-line, so if I can work at the same time I am going to keep cracking at it. Maybe we are crazy but my children are grown now so I have no excuse (if you don't count the exhaustion and dementia!) Goodluck to you!!!
  11. by   billyboblewis
    RN's perform duties for Lpn's that they are not legally permitted to. One of these is administering IV drugs. As an RN I do not consider this baby sitting but it is part of my job. LPN's are expected to carry a bigger load in some other ways to make up for the work I do. Many hospitals have hiring freezes. It is very dificult to tell which individual will be in demand next. The best soloution for anyone is to find out where you are comfortable and do your job to the best of your ability. If you have the desire to get a position that has higher educational requirements go for it.
  12. by   spotonthewall
    Gang, there are armies of unemployed RN's out there and here in Florida, many RN's are being hired to do LPN work at Nursing homes and in Hospice at crappy wages.
  13. by   MsApricot
    Hmm, I'm not sure if we are ahead or behind the rest of the world, but in Ireland we don't have LPNs at all (I had to Google it after I came here!!). Also, everyone must train by BSN, you can't practice in the country without the degree. I do like it this way, its not as confusing..!