Interim permit question..plz help! - page 2

hi i just submitted my payment ($107, i didnt include the interim permit fee) and other requirements to the CA BON last Jan 28, 2007 and my school has also passed my requirements... My aunt advised... Read More

  1. by   Silverdragon102
    I think you need to think about interim permits if coming from abroad. At the moment there is retrogression and if working on intrim permit and pass NCLEX there are no visas to adjust and therefore can not stay in the US to work. This is no way to be used as a short cut as it will not bypass and make it easier to get a visa
  2. by   suzanne4
    I am going to move this to th International Forum, as it is not related to the NCLEX exam any longer.

    To clear up a few things for all of you since you are discussing the IP for California.

    1. You must take and pass the CGFNS exam, as well as pass the required English exam to get the IP for CA. No exceptions to this rule if you are foreign trained, not even if you are a US citizen or green card holder. If you trained out of the US, then you need to take and pass the CGFNS exam.

    2. If you do not have a visa that will permit you to work in the US, then the IP will not do you any good at all. It is just going to sit there. Licensure is completely separate from immigration.

    3. Immigration requires that you pass either the CGFNS exam, or the NCLEX-RN exam to start the processing for immigration. And you will find issues with anyplace other than a nursing home to even consider hiring you without the NCLEX-RN done.

    4. There are a few that have been posting on this forum that went the CGFNS route, and then the IP, did not pass the NCLEX-RN exam the first time, so cannot work in that role, and are now working as CNAs. Once you sit for the NCLEX exam, the IP gets cancelled; you either pass it and then can use RN after your name, or then you work as a CNA since you will not be licensed or have permission from the BEN to remain in that role.

    5. The IP is only good for 6 months and you need to test by then.

    6. Retrogression is in place, so it is going to be much longer than 6 months before you can work. And expect that those that were born in Philippines to be waiting for sometime. The number that have applied for the green card, or are just starting the process is staggering. Remember that there are less than 10,000 visas for all of those from the EB-3 category per entire year from your country to be able to get a green card.

    7. Save your money, there is no reason to write the CGFNS exam either, it will not help you work faster.

    8. Aunties and cousins do not always know better. You still have to follow the laws of USCIS to work here.
  3. by   suzanne4
    Unless you are already in the US on a visa that will legally permit you to work, the IP is not even a viable solution to anything. The other issue is that as a foreign grad, you are not going to find a hospital that will be willing to start the petitioning if you do not pass the NCLEX-RN exam first. Too many have gotten burned by nurses that did not pass, and could not work in that role.

    If you do not already have a green card, or working on getting one such as thru the K-1 fiancee visa, or something similar; do not even waste your time. Why take the CGFNS exam when it is not needed for licensure in the first place? I am sure that many of you are not aware that CA requires that before they will issue the IP to a foreign grad.
  4. by   dave787
    were are you exactly now? why will you apply for interim if your still in the philippines and no visa
    Last edit by dave787 on Aug 26, '07
  5. by   AstonishiaInlimbo
    Quote from suzanne4
    1. You must take and pass the CGFNS exam, as well as pass the required English exam to get the IP for CA. No exceptions to this rule if you are foreign trained, not even if you are a US citizen or green card holder. If you trained out of the US, then you need to take and pass the CGFNS exam.
    If this is true, how come my friend from India got an IP in CA...she did not take CGFNS, or an english exam (and she has a not so good english)? She worked at the local hospital for some 5 months before she took the NCLEX. I think she's not even a US Citizen, but a green card holder.

    Sadly, she failed her exam and is reviewing again....she needs to work hard on her language barrier...
  6. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from sundaebrain
    If this is true, how come my friend from India got an IP in CA...she did not take CGFNS, or an english exam (and she has a not so good english)? She worked at the local hospital for some 5 months before she took the NCLEX. I think she's not even a US Citizen, but a green card holder.

    Sadly, she failed her exam and is reviewing again....she needs to work hard on her language barrier...
    according to the information about interim license the English exam is waivered if your training was done in English. Here is the link which explains the process. Which at the moment if living abroad is not really a route if you are wanting to change your status as currently no visas available to do it. Your friend if she didn't already have a green card would have problems with her status unless she changed to student having failed her NCLEX she is lucky to have the green card already. CA shouldn't have given her interim if she could not meet all the requirements

    http://www.rn.ca.gov/lic/pdf/exam_app_2004.pdf
  7. by   suzanne4
    Quote from sundaebrain
    If this is true, how come my friend from India got an IP in CA...she did not take CGFNS, or an english exam (and she has a not so good english)? She worked at the local hospital for some 5 months before she took the NCLEX. I think she's not even a US Citizen, but a green card holder.

    Sadly, she failed her exam and is reviewing again....she needs to work hard on her language barrier...
    Not sure how she got that, if you look at their website, it states that they require the CGFNS exam to be able to get the IP if a foreign grad. And she also needs to have passed the English exam. A green card holder makes no difference, requirements for licensure have nothing to do with immigration.

    Where did she actually attend school? The only way that she would not have the CGFNS requirement is if she attended school in the US. But at this point, since she did not pass the NCLEX exam, she no longer has the IP.

    Did you actually see her IP? Sorry, but just because someone tells you something does it mean that is exists. And if her English is that poor, would be surprised that the facility kept her in that role to begin with. I am sure that there is more to the story than what you may even know.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on Aug 28, '07
  8. by   eysmacaspac
    my sister-in-law is in the us now under a tourist visa. she just passed the local board exam in the philippines. she will apply for the nclex anytime now and wishes to apply also for an interim permit. the question is,does she need to have the ielts before applying? is ielts really a requirement for rns from the philippines before getting an interim permit?of course we know that it is really needed for the visa screen but should she have passed the ielts first before she can apply for an interim permit?

  9. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from eysmacaspac
    my sister-in-law is in the us now under a tourist visa. she just passed the local board exam in the philippines. she will apply for the nclex anytime now and wishes to apply also for an interim permit. the question is,does she need to have the ielts before applying? is ielts really a requirement for rns from the philippines before getting an interim permit?of course we know that it is really needed for the visa screen but should she have passed the ielts first before she can apply for an interim permit?
    which state is she applying for interim permit? if ca then according to their website then she needs english exam. she also needs to be aware that once she passes nclex her interim permit is finished and there are no ways at the moment to change status in the us, so she will have to return home. she really needs to think this through properly as at the moment i would not recommend this route. suzanne should be along to give further advice
  10. by   eysmacaspac
    Quote from silverdragon102
    which state is she applying for interim permit? if ca then according to their website then she needs english exam. she also needs to be aware that once she passes nclex her interim permit is finished and there are no ways at the moment to change status in the us, so she will have to return home. she really needs to think this through properly as at the moment i would not recommend this route. suzanne should be along to give further advice

    yes in ca. thanks for the advice!

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