Military Nursing Questions Answered - page 15

by navyman7 61,019 Views | 204 Comments

Hello. I have seen many questions posted about the recruiting, the military, and future military experiences, I wanted to start a Q & A forum where you can ask questions related to the military from someone who is in the... Read More


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    Hi navyman7, thanks for your prompt and informative response. It was very helpful! I'll keep it in mind as I figure out what I want to do in regards to my career and the navy.
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    Navyman7: Iíve JUST finished reading this thread in its entirety: took me all day at the office Ė so much for work, haha. Thank you so much for posting this topic Ė it has answered several questions Iíve had, even though I have spoken with a recruiter many times. The first time I spoke with a recruiter was in the Spring of 2012. I was in the middle of applying to Accelerated nursing programs. The recruiter gave me a lot of valuable information regarding the NCP, but said to get back in touch with her once I get an acceptance letter from the school I want to attend. I got an acceptance letter from Drexel (11-month Acclerated BSN program) in August 2012. It is now December and Iím waiting to hear back from UPenn (18-month Accelerated BSN program), which will be the first week of February. I will make my immediate decision at that point of which schoolís program I want to go with. At that point, I will contact the recruiter to start the application process. My program will start in either April or June 2013 and I will be have obtained my BSN by March or December 2014. How will the application process for the Navy Nurse Candidate Program be ready by the time I start one of these programs? There is a $1,000 monthly stipend for the time Iím in school and a $5,000 disbursement at the beginning and then again 6-months later. From the looks of it, the application process wonít be done until Iím well near the end of my schooling and then it will make the disbursements and stipends obsolete! Does this mean I would have to go the DA route? I guess I could ask my recruiter this same question, which I will, but Iím posing this question to all of you since youíre not holding back any secrets and youíve been through it all!Iím really excited about this route. I live in NJ and would not mind being shipped off to even San Diego, but I understand the Navy wants to send money Ė Bethesda is 2 hours away from me and Norfolk is 5 AND I have a ton of family there, so that would be cool. Finally, what would you say would be the major things that a recruiter leaves out when speaking with an interested potential candidate?
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    Dassit 82:
    I appreciate that you read this thread in it's entirety. I hope it helped.
    In short I would say, Yes the DA route would probably be the best financial option. You would lose a lot of money if you went with the NCP route and would incur a lot more time on your contract. As for your duty station, tell the recruiter where you want to go. Yes the Navy wants to save money but they need nurses at every hospital not just the east coast. Go for San Diego if you want it.

    Regarding what the recruiter leaves out...They leave out all the little details that makes the Navy great or horrible.
    I will try and be objective as I list the many things that people have issues with.

    Cons:
    -Working long hours with out any kind of compensation, payback, or overtime. Working call without any kind of compensation or consideration to the hours you've just worked.
    -Endless hours/days of pointless training that has no bearing on your job, again on your days off most of the time (General Military Training-GMT's, NKO "training", Deplolyment Training, etc).
    -Sometimes no say as to where you work.
    -Deployments
    -Moving every few years, very few exceptions to this. Sometimes to underdesirable locations.
    -Very difficult taking vacation
    -Having to work under nurses in supervisory positions who haven't worked at the bedside in years. Also having to do what they say despite their inexperience in a certain area. (I know this happens in the civilian world too, but at least you can work with HR/Unions if someone isn't safe or if they are clueless. Not the case in the military, you do what they say or its insubordination.)
    -The more experieced you become and more senior in rank you become the farther away from the bedside that you become, very little exceptions to this.
    -Working in your uniform at the bedside, not all work in their uniforms but many do (the exceptions are; ED, OR, ICU)
    -The military health care system (for you). Having to go to appointments in uniform. Having to go to the hospital sickcall if you are sick. Can't just call in and say that you are sick.
    -Can be hard on families, family relationships.
    -opportunity for more school with a variable payback length and possible increase in deployments.

    Pros:
    -getting to serve your country and those who help keep us safe
    -job security , health benefits, steady paycheck, decent retirement at 20yrs.
    -meeting new people from all over the world, making great friends
    -deployments, unique job training and experiences
    -opportunity for leadership roles, but you move away from the bedside
    -frequent moves, living in good/bad places
    -decent pay as a bedside nurse
    -opportunity for more school with a variable payback length and possible increase in deployments.

    I am sure that many people have many more good/bad experiences than this but this is what I could come up with on short notice. Hope this helps.
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    I've been following this thread for awhile now and wanted to say thanks navyman.
    Your last post shocked me a little.
    Working bedside in your uniform!? I thought maybe insignia scrubs or something, but in uniform seems a little uncomfortable,especially your shoes!
    Also your comment about insubordination from superior nurses was a little concerning. If one were to consult the MD would that be insubordination?
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    I work in my NWUs and khakis on fridays on a medsurg floor. It's not terrible. We are getting NWU scurb tops but still have to wear our boots. Also our LnD has their own scrubs.
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    Thanks again, Navyman. That was very helpful to see the list of the pros and cons. I'm surprised by some of the cons as I didn't know about the uniform to work situation. Also, the calling in sick doesn't sound like fun - though I only called out of work once in the past 3 years and it was because I wasn't coming in to do Accounting while Hurrican Sandy was raging outside!I actually spoke to my recruiter last night. It looks like I missed the cutoff for the NCP anyway. She told me that if i'm still interested after graduation next March, then to look into the AD route. Thanks again for your mentoring. We are all very appreciative of the information and it's really helping me make a better decision about this. I'm still very interested.
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    Quote from Dassit82
    She told me that if i'm still interested after graduation next March, then to look into the AD route.
    Sorry - DA route. I'm still learning all of the terminology!
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    As a navy nurse is it possible to work prn as a civilian? I realize Navy commitments would come first.
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    Quote from DSchulte99
    I work in my NWUs and khakis on fridays on a medsurg floor. It's not terrible. We are getting NWU scurb tops but still have to wear our boots. Also our LnD has their own scrubs.
    Your NWU is long sleeve though yes?
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    Quote from PCroizier

    Your NWU is long sleeve though yes?
    Nevermind! I re-read to see you are getting scrub tops...I was imagining a transmissions nightmare since they appear to be a little loose.


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