Army Nurse Corps FY2013 - page 89
by AjaxAndronicus, BSN, RN, EMT-P | 126,477 Views | 905 Comments
Hey everybody, I'm starting a thread here for those applying to the Army Nurse Corps in FY2013. I figure this might be a good place to get to know other future nurse corps officers and a place for the veterans of the ANC to pass... Read More
- 3Apr 19, '13 by jeckrnBefore people say that the military facilities do not have the equipment/supplies d staffing to do there jobs have not worked at a civilian hospital. I have worked at 6 civilian hospitals and the Army hospitals have been the best equipped and staffed. at a civilian hospital when census is low staff is sent home not at Army hospital. The staffing ratio is much better at a Army hospital, have never heard of a nurse taking a 10-12 patient load. Yes there are a lot of issues with Army nursing and one of the major ones is as a nurse finally has a decent amount of experience the are pulled away from the bedside
- 1Apr 19, '13 by jeckrnQuote from ArmyCRNA2BI'm prior service Air Force and Army and currently on my third year of a 5 year ADSO as an AN (1LT). I'm telling you now turn around and go back, Army nursing sucks!!! It's a parallel universe compared to civilian nursing! I was where you were at , except I was in the ANCP program, did BOLC, I mean drunkfest, at Sam Houston. Yep go directly passed GO and Do not collect 200. It's a joke! Its all old school nursing from the 80's, everything from equipment to team nursing, and oh lets not forget the furlough taking affect 16 Jun!! Yep be prepared to work long hours and yea your days off are not your days off!! You have to come in to the hospital and do APEQS training as well as all your other appointments plus mandatoary volunteering into the community and mandatory fun time. Yep welcome to Army nursing suckaaa!!!
nursing is nursing no matter where you do it. There are very few places that you can control your schedule, you can ask but it not mean you will get it. Is it Army nursing or nursing in general you do not like? If you are prior vice there should have been no surprises about mandatory training on your days off, or mandatory fun.
- 2Apr 20, '13 by Pixie.RN, BSN, RN, EMT-P Senior ModeratorQuote from jeckrnThis is one of the (very few, thankfully) complaints I have, overall. And it makes me very glad that I came into the Army with nursing experience! Trying to develop solid nursing skills while also developing effective leadership is difficult in such a relatively short period of time; one may suffer at the expense of the other.Yes there are a lot of issues with Army nursing and one of the major ones is as a nurse finally has a decent amount of experience the are pulled away from the bedside
- 1Apr 23, '13 by DRC6262Quote from ajb50402Hi Blair, I'm considering going the ROTC route and was wondering if you could share your experiences. What was it like doing nursing school AND ROTC? My school's ROTC says they will work with my schedule, but I'm wondering if all the extra stuff will detract from the nursing part. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!Hello everyone! Not sure about stunt from above but I wanted to introduce myself. My name is Blair and I am a ROTC graduate from creighton university in Omaha, NE. I will be commissioning and going to BOLC in August or October. I'm interested in goin the M5 route and eventually trying to get onto a SORT team once I have the experience. Good luck to all of you
- 0Jun 7, '13 by dccubanoI am active duty army and have one year left to get my BSN. I am working on a med-surge floor at one of the larger military facilities this summer. So far it has been a pretty interesting experience. All the nurses on the floor come from different branches of service. They all seem to get along really well and there is no drama that I can see. The floor is very different from the med-surge floor at my university hospital. The biggest difference I see between civilian and military at this hospital is the work load. The med-surge nurses at the civilian hospital seemed to average about 6 patients per nurse and the nurses at the military facility seemed to have 3 to 4 patients. I am not going to lie, I get bored during my 12 hours on the floor. You can only assess, document, pass meds, and do comfort round for patients so often. It really seems like there are too many nurses on the floor at one time. Is this isolated or is it like that throughout all the military facilities?Last edit by dccubano on Jun 7, '13
- 0Jun 7, '13 by zombieI have worked civilian ICU and military ICU and have floated to the floor at times. "Generally" speaking I have noticed that staff throughout the hospital in-patient wards are not balanced optimally vs. civilian sector. I would take 2-3 patients or 2 easier patients and the code bed in civ world vs 1-2 patients in military. Some may say you cannot compare the two equally, and yes there are major demands on military personnel not just bedside care which is true. But, there is lots of room for better manpower management. Things will change, I honk it's happening now faster because of the pressure to lower costs. I was shocked at how low the patient nurse ratio even when acuity was factored in when I joined the military. Lots of boring days, but I am not complaining at all. But if I was a CEO of that hospital I would be fired quickly because the biggest cost in healthcare is your people. And if you don't manage that correctly them you fail. But, we haven't had to worry about our costs due to wars and blank check we have been given. Things are moving more joint now with bases and even with command for increased efficiency. All militAry medicine is going to be under one command. Anyways. I am rambling.
- 0Jun 7, '13 by carolinapoohQuote from zombieDon't hold your breath on this happening before you retire. I'm not, and I can retire in ten years.Things are moving more joint now with bases and even with command for increased efficiency. All militAry medicine is going to be under one command. Anyways. I am rambling.
This idea has been around since 1945, and has yet take hold.
As it is, they're finding out that joint operations are neither as simple as they look on paper nor are they as cheap as they wanted to believe they would be. (And any on-the-ground, in-the-ranks service member could've told them that. You don't need four stars to figure this out, just a bit of sensibility about the reality of the situation.)
They've combined bases and services across the board, yet there was still a major budget shortfall/cutback/restructuring necessary (or not, depending on your stance) just to get through this fiscal year. Even our own Chief of Staff took a step back before his retirement and said, well, things aren't what we expected them to be at this point.
There's a lot of deep, long second looks being taken at this whole approach, so literally, watch this space.