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| No. 30 | 
May 18, 2009, 02:03 AM
 Re: I got people fired where I work, and now hate my job
Unfortunately, this leaves a huge stigma and financial woe on the accused. I don't know where your from but this is the real world. No one likes snitches. PERIOD! That's why there are anonymous hotlines for people to call, which I fully support.
The word "snitch" used in this context is wholly unprofessional and inappropriate. It demeans every nurse who has ever wrestled with these questions, trying to protect his/her patient and not wanting to jeapordize her relationships with her co-workers. The people who REALLY don't like snitches are people who have something to lose. If a "snitch" is someone who observes her co-worker shoving my mom around or whatever else, then well, I LOVE a snitch. 
I totally agree with you that a false accusation that is completely baseless can ruin someone's life, their finances etc. Someone who does that should face whatever legal consequences that can be brought against them. No, it's not always a perfect system. It's just better to have as system that encourages people to speak up, rather than fear being stigmatized by a word like that.   | | Advertisement Sponsored Links | | | | No. 31 |
May 18, 2009, 03:40 AM
Re: I got people fired where I work, and now hate my job Originally Posted by BabyLady  Something in my gut instinct tells me that it didn't, and that is why the OP is getting the backlash at work.
why are you involving your gut instinct, lets stick just to the facts presented, and give this nurse the support she needs for doing what was right legally even if it didnt win her any popularity contests at home. why criticize her based on your gut instinct,
However, I don't think it's appropriate to report hearsay because if you are wrong, someone's reputation in the facility can get seriously damaged in the process.
thats a matter of opinion, and as I wrote, we can agree to disagree. In any event if she hadn't reported it and was discovered as having known and kept quiet because she was afraid it was heresay, she might be an accessory after the fact...
If the OP didn't feel responsible that she "got someone fired" then I doubt she would have used it as the title of her thread. I like that argument, and if I may suggest, we sometimes judge ourselves unfavorably as a reflection of the way we are treated, which is why they say dress for the job you want not have, so people will treat you better and you will in turn act accordingly. If her coworkers and friends have come down hard on her, she might be feeling guilty which is why an unbiased 3rd party (us) have come to tell her that she did the right thing | | No. 32 |
May 22, 2009, 12:20 PM
Re: I got people fired where I work, and now hate my job
So, lets say you heard the RN giving report to the LPN and she says "So and so has an order to remove his picc line but I didn't have time to do it..." And the LPN says "I'll go do it, " and he goes and pulls it. Here in my state, even IV certified LPN's are not allowed by the facility or the BON to D/C them. Would you say something? And BTW, nothing was charted by anyone about the picc being D/C'd. Who's fault is it for not reporting it? The RN who says "I didn't hear that," as he walks off to go pull the picc line or the person overhearing the conversation?
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May 23, 2009, 11:32 PM
Re: I got people fired where I work, and now hate my job Originally Posted by lvn2bsoon So, lets say you heard the RN giving report to the LPN and she says "So and so has an order to remove his picc line but I didn't have time to do it..." And the LPN says "I'll go do it, " and he goes and pulls it. Here in my state, even IV certified LPN's are not allowed by the facility or the BON to D/C them. Would you say something? And BTW, nothing was charted by anyone about the picc being D/C'd. Who's fault is it for not reporting it? The RN who says "I didn't hear that," as he walks off to go pull the picc line or the person overhearing the conversation?
If there is no RN coming on shift, the RN from the previous shift has to stay and remove the picc.
As to reporting it, anyone can report it, it is then up to management to investigate its truthfulness. Then decide how to deal with it.
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May 24, 2009, 02:30 AM
Re: I got people fired where I work, and now hate my job The biggest mistake you made is that you reported something that you heard and didn't know of for a fact....even rumor mills cost people their jobs. You also didn't do it to protect the patient...you did it to save your own job...so my question to you is: Why was your job at risk to start with? I would never, ever go to a boss unless it was something I witnessed personally, because you never know what kind of toxic poison someone else is spilling out of their lips. I don't know how old you are, but I would wager you are pretty young.
No need to bring age into it. It's not just younger people who dislike that others talk behind their backs. I also think that these people would not have been fired unless there was follow-up done and it was found out to be true. The nurse had a legal obligation to tell someone, and it was to go higher up.
who wants to remain friends with people who would emotionally abuse an elderly woman anyway?
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May 29, 2009, 03:13 PM
Re: I got people fired where I work, and now hate my job
I don't blame you for what you did. I see your point of view.
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May 30, 2009, 09:30 PM
Re: I got people fired where I work, and now hate my job Originally Posted by shannieliz I ran into a situation in December that involved abuse (emotional) against an elderly resident, involving 2 nurses and 4 cna's, I was not presnt whaen the abuse happened, but was told about it by a nurse and cna, I decided that I would tell my DON. Partly to help the poor lady that was being abused and partly to save my job, I knew if they found out that I knew I would loose my job. Consquently they all got fired, and word got out "somehow" that I told on them, I live in a small town, there are only 2 nursing homes in my town, not many places to work, I'm sure that the whole town knows it was me. I know that I did the right thing, but am having some major guilt because the two nurses involved were good nurses and my friends. I have not spoken with the DON, ADON or Administrator since everything happened (5 months ago) I work third shift and rarely see them, but when I have seen them, I feel as though they are ignoring me, or are ashamed of me somehow, and I am really not enjoying my job at all right now, I actually have heard rumors to "watch my back, and watch what I say to anyone" and third shift has gotten in "trouble" and been "nit picked" upon since this happened. I am a good nurse and do my job very well, although I am worried that there is a "WITCH HUNT" and I am the next target, believe me this type of thing happens all the time in my facility, everyone knows who is gonna be fired before they are fired. so, I guess I'm wondering if this has happened to anyone else, or am I just being paranoid?? Please help. 
I too am going through the same thing, I just posted it. I am sorry this has happened to you, small town, night shift,, all the same, I too was told Don't mess with the CNA's,, well I am The Charge Nurse and I will not hear a CNA abuse a patient and let it go,, but then your the dog for saying something,, I can't go anywhere else to work,, I would have to be at least 60 miles away from home, I am a single Mom with 2 Teens I leave, and work 12 to 14 hour shifts, 3 to 4 days a week,, I do not know how the facility could get away with protecting CNA's over Nurses. They let them run us. The witness that also heard the abuse was a real good CNA, and she verified every word I wrote down,, but yet the DON told the CNA that was abusing the patient just to write down her side of the story, {her side of the story is: SHE ABUSED A PATIENT} and not the firdst time,, she has been reported many times. I am lost for words, and don't enjoy going to work since this happened, I worked hard for my degree, I am supporting my family, so Yes, I am going through the same thing. I mopved to this State from New York,, this would not happen there. That CNA would be gone, and CNA's are taught to respect the Nurse in Charge, not tell her what to do. Again, I am sorry you are experiencing the same problem.
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