Why are my classmates so competitive????? - page 3

have anyone, or does anyone have to deal with the competitiveness, cattyness and unbearable melting pot of personalities of fellow nursing classmates? at times my teacher broadcasts the grades of... Read More

  1. by   johngalt
    Well just for sake of the argument: If this straight and very high 'A' student were to join the study group, what would he get out of it exactly? Would it be a waste of his time? True, he could do it to benefit the rest of the group, some of whom were probably stuggling. A selfless act to benefit his classmates. But I doubt that the rest of you are in the group out of a sense of selfless giving. Presumably the rest of you were in the group because you hoped it would improve your performance. His performance was already top notch.
  2. by   RNNoMore
    No, as I explained - I'm already a straight A student, but I still join study groups - the benefits don't always have to be higher grades! I got some great study ideas, and ideas for mnemonics from the other students (one was a B student and the other two were struggling to retain a C), I got social interaction, made some great friends who I still keep in touch with, AND got the satisfaction that I had helped a few people who were struggling with certain concepts. The ONLY slightly negative aspect was that I have a certain personal study schedule, based on Tony Buzan's ideas, and I use mind-mapping also, which didn't always fit in with what I was studying in the groups, so occasionally I was a bit pushed to fit both schedules into my day, but the benefits of being part of the group far, far outweighed any negatives. I got to munch on lots of Pecan Pie & Ice-cream too LOL!

    Paint.
  3. by   Supercalifragilistic
    Quote from encephala
    at times my teacher broadcasts the grades of those who scored the highest on exams and quizzes
    you should ask your teacher if he/she has ever heard of ferpa, the family educational rights and privacy act!!!! if i am not mistaken, it is illegal for her to publicize people's grades! (besides the fact that it's tacky and unproductive of him/her to do so!)

    found these on a quick google search:
    http://registrar.wisc.edu/ferpa/facu...t_is_ferpa.php

    http://www.news.wisc.edu/8900.html

    http://www3.niu.edu/provost/facpers/grades.htm


    even if she gets those top students' consent, i think you could make the argument that by broadcasting the top grades only, she is also broadcasting information about the other students' grades by omission.

    (if john doe always makes the top grade, and suddenly doesn't on one particular exam, the other students would notice -- and the teacher would be sharing information about john doe's grade without his consent).
  4. by   IMustBeCrazy
    Well just for sake of the argument: If this straight and very high 'A' student were to join the study group, what would he get out of it exactly?
    Sounds like this particular student could benefit from brushing up on his social skills, hence participation in a group would be good. Not a book subject, but every bit as relevant in nursing.
  5. by   Jen2
    I do fairly well in nursing school and I still do study groups with the C students. Even though I do good on nursing exams, I am horrible at math. So, those C students that I help out with for lecture exams are the same ones supporting me and helping me out with the dosage calcutions exams. The key to a good study group is to know your stuff before you get together and then go over each others weak points, compare notes, and brainstorm for possible test questions. Works great for me.
  6. by   Tony35NYC
    Hmmm. I'm not in it for the competition. As long as I have good enough grades to get me into grad school, I couldn't care any less about what everyone else is doing. There used to be a few people who were really into that "Look at me, I got an 'A' " stuff at the beginning, but not anymore. In my humble opinion, nursing isn't all about getting A's, and there's no research that proves that nurses who got straight A's all through nursing school deliver better professional nursing care than nurses who did not.

    I don't know if I'd describe the behavior of that guy mentioned a few comments earlier as "catty" or "witchy". I've sometimes not done too well with study groups in the past either, not because I think I'm better than others in the group but because it never fails that some people either come unprepared to contribute anything to the group or they come and waste time talking about things that have nothing at all to do with what we're supposed to be studying.
  7. by   PCGrad06
    to be competitive if you want to call it that gives me that extra drive to get something done and to do it well. however, mine is kept within. two or three of us will take a test. if i did the best then i say it was just my lucky day but when one of the others in the group does better i think i have to study harder for the next one. but i say congrats or we see who was burning the night oil for this one. i think we feed off of each other more than anything else. but we have not began the nursing classes yet so it may change. but i hope not
  8. by   Nurse-o-Matic
    I have a pretty stellar GPA and have always helped out my classmates with notes, clarifications, extra textbooks, etc. One day last semester I accidently slept through my alarm for an 8:00am class. When I arrived late for class and asked a girl whom I had previously provided notes for to please let me borrow the notes I had missed she said no because I always make better grades than the rest of the class. I was shocked! I ended up approaching three students before someone let me have them. Since then, I am very stingy about providing any info, notes, etc. Get this, the same girl who wouldn't let me see the notes has actually called me several times recently about getting help writing papers and finding research material! I am always polite, but state I'm too busy.
  9. by   smk1
    i guess i compete with myself. I like to do well and i try to push myself to do the best that i can on assignments and exams etc.. so in a sense i compete with myself to top previous accomplishments, i wasn't alwyas like this when i was youngerbut now that i am an older student i see the value in learning whatever i can, and push for the best out of myself. I DO NOT like the people who are always trying to compare their accomplishments to everyone elses. I keep my grades and things of that nature to myself when at all possible. Anything else just causes problems in my opinion.
  10. by   mariedoreen
    Quote from Carolanne
    Some people just have to have the front seat in everything.
    Actually some of us who are sitting in the front seat aren't there because we feel the need to be ahead of everyone else, but because we are striving to do our personal best and are just ending up there. I just about cringe when someone asks me what I got on a test and then always do the stupid, girl thing of downplaying it.. sometimes it feels like high school when everyone's trying to make you feel like a nerd for getting good grades.
  11. by   mariedoreen
    Quote from Paint
    No, as I explained - I'm already a straight A student, but I still join study groups - the benefits don't always have to be higher grades! I got some great study ideas, and ideas for mnemonics from the other students (one was a B student and the other two were struggling to retain a C), I got social interaction, made some great friends who I still keep in touch with, AND got the satisfaction that I had helped a few people who were struggling with certain concepts. The ONLY slightly negative aspect was that I have a certain personal study schedule, based on Tony Buzan's ideas, and I use mind-mapping also, which didn't always fit in with what I was studying in the groups, so occasionally I was a bit pushed to fit both schedules into my day, but the benefits of being part of the group far, far outweighed any negatives. I got to munch on lots of Pecan Pie & Ice-cream too LOL!

    Paint.
    i've been to too many study groups where recipes were being swapped and weekend plans were being discussed... no thanks
  12. by   Jill1215
    The only thing I have found to help with the competitiveness of my classmates is to disclose very little about my grades to people. If someone asks how I did on a test I simply say that I did fine (even if I aced it). I never give a number and rarely will I give a letter grade. I never let myself come out of a test saying, "Oh...that was so hard! Or, that was the worst test ever!!" I don't want to voice my opinions about a test being really difficult just in case someone sees the mark I make on the test and it turns out to be really good.

    I think nursing school would be a better experience if people would keep more things private. Telling someone I made an "A" does them no good. They get nothing from my grade. I would rather not let the negative feelings someone may have even surface.

    People in my class know I study and that I try my best. They do not know what I make on the assignments or the tests. Therefore, people don't seem to be catty with me.

    That's what I think anyway.
    Jill
  13. by   jemommyRN
    Well, at the school that I'm going to, it seems as though they don't have to announce the grades for you to know what someone else has made because apparently half of the class is sitting there crying after the test review.

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