What would you do? - page 2
The policy in our school is that if you miss more then 4 classes or 1.5 days of clinical you are withdrawn from the term. It also states that if you are absent a day of a test, (which is every class... Read More
May 24, '07She may have not told you she has a disability. This student has no obligation to tell ANY of her peers of her disability. If faculty and/or administration know about it thats all that is needed. I have a military related/veteran disability (50%) and the only people who know about that are family members and personal friends. No one at school knows because it's none of their business. Think about that before you contact administration. If you still feel like contacting them by all means do so, but if you see no results or get no answer it may possibly be because she may have a disability and they do not have to tell you anything about it.
According to the Office of Civil Rights/Dept. of Education:
Section 504 and Title II both prohibit retaliation for filing an OCR complaint or for advocating for a right protected by the two laws, and harassment of students or others because of a disability.
May 24, '07Why does everyone jump to automatically assume she has a disability? It cant just be that she is rude, self centered, lazy and irresponsible? I could understand if she had a physical disability but that doesn't excuse her behavior in any way. It doesnt excuse her racial comments, cursing in the teachers face, or her other behaviors. I guess you cant take my word for it, and its easier to think someone is not responsible for their own actions then to call it for what it is. I will admit that something fishy is going on, because there IS an obvious bending of the rules for this girl AND her friends.
According to some logic here though they must all be disabled since they act the same and do the same things by being late. Though its obvious whats going on when ONE shows up to take the test and the other two come late and take it the next day, and this happens consistently.
Bah I dunno, I am going to drop it, I have a final to study for.
May 24, '07Because if she has a disability it would make sense that she's getting away with stuff no one else can. No, it doesn't excuse her behavior, but it would explain why she gets different treatment.
May 24, '07Quote from ThedreamerYes, please drop the issue. The school seems to be catering to this student, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. If you speak up about this student's behavior and preferential treatment, the school will find a way to get YOU in trouble. Unfortunately, most bureaucracies do not like whistleblowers. Always remember that is political. It is best to keep quiet, and get through the year without rocking the boat.Bah I dunno, I am going to drop it, I have a final to study for.
May 24, '07Quote from TheCommuterThats probably the best advice I have heard about this subject Its frustrating to see this going on but I wont jeopardized my studies over it ya know? Its probably best to just keep my head down, make my good grades and get my shiny license. Someone mentioned karma before, and this will all come back to her eventually. :trout:Always remember thatis political. It is best to keep quiet, and get through the year without rocking the boat.
May 25, '07I'm sorry. I really didn't want to imply that she had a disability just that she could have one and nobody would know. But like I said...I didn't really think this was the case.
I know you are obsessing. It's one of those things that you notice and it just annoys you. It's really hard to pretend this stuff isn't happening. You are busting you rear trying to do this and she is essentially taking an easy route. I wonder if somebody is feeding her information.
Do you have a mentor or an advisor at the school? I know my school we each have one and we can go to them and it's confidential (unlike it may be when you go to another instructor). Well I had a MAJOR issue the first weekend of clinicals this semester. I was going to quit and come back in a year just so I didn't have to deal with it. I called my advisor just so I could have somebody listen who might get it. My mom gets it but she was being mean rather then supportive that night and my husband doesn't get it. My advisor really helped me. Now this involved another instructor and it seemed that she almost told the instructor because the next weekend there was a pretty big change. Some people who knew about my call ever said "did she talk to her". I don't think so but maybe in passing mentioned something vague.
Anyway my point would be that you could go to your advisor and just use them as an ear to listen to your frustrations. It's very possible that will be beneficial for you to talk to somebody and maybe they will finally act on it.
I think telling you that this shouldn't bother you is asking you to be a cold unfeeling person. We have emotions and we can't shut them down. Things are going to bother us and it's okay to feel bothered...it's just how you handle it from there.
Good luck. I understand your situation. We had a guy last semester who was an issue and the school ignored it. Many of us were bothered. We've let it go some now but occasionally it is still mentioned.
We are human.
May 25, '07We dont have an adviser but I think things will work out in the end. People find ways to weed themselves out through their own actions.
May 25, '07Quote from ThedreamerWe dont have an adviser but I think things will work out in the end. People find ways to weed themselves out through their own actions.
That is so true. We have a girl who has stopped showing up. We think she was kicked out. You know what...she was asking for it. Showed up late at clinical #1, was told it was a freebie, late for #2 and told next is an action plan, showed up late again so plan was written and guess what...the next time she never showed. We think because she was going to be late she didn't come because she was getting kicked out now because of being late again.
She made her decision. This wasn't an accident. She was leaving class early even when there were labs (which are mandatory hours). I know some people have it rough and I don't mind when they leave or are late. This girl was never on time and never sat through an entire class.
It worked out for her....just not in a good way.
May 25, '07Dear Dreamer
I Think Every Nursing School Has One Or Two Students Like This,there Is Nothing You Or Us Can Do About It,one Thing I Can Advise You Try Not To Pay Attention To Much To Yhis Keep Your Energy To Yourself You Need It!! One Day You"ll See Who Really Wins!!! Continue Getting On Time To Classes And Taking On Time All Your Tests So You"ll Be A Good Nurse At The Future, Like It Says At The Hebrew Statement:"hazorim Bedimah Berina Iktzoru" The Once That Work Hard With Tears Wins And Are Live Happily Afterall,
May 25, '07I see a lot of this going on at my school to with certain students and instructors, but for some reason i just don't care whats going on in the background at my school, all i worry about is myself and me learning what i need to know to become a great nurse!
May 25, '07I had a similar experience in school. We (the students) complained to no avail. My advice is much like others on this post: keep your side of the street clean, be where you are supposed to be, and do what you need to to pass and graduate. I think that we have all seen the special treatment that some students get, and although it pisses me off, I sucked it up and graduated. I agree that karma has a way of biting you in the ass eventually, so in both our situations, I think we will be practicing long after that other person isnt!
Jun 12, '07All I can say is I hope the school wises up and gets this student out before she hurts someone.