Sense of Entitlement or Right to "Sample" - page 3

by Tait

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I have my opinions as an educator on this piece, but was wondering what students thought.... Read More


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    It seems the day this article was posted to this forum the author of the article (which was initially written some time ago) wrote an "Edit" at the end saying that this was not written by the professor. Nonetheless, most of us can see (or have seen) similar things happen. I think it's important to remember that 18-25 year olds are not known for their sense of responsibility and common sense. These things develop with time. Just because another calendar year has elapsed and a person's age is changed from 17 to 18, it doesn't mean that they're going to wake up that morning suddenly instilled with all the common sense, discipline and responsibility that they will need in life. Kids (young adults) do stupid things. We all have. It's annoying, yes. But If a kid does something dumb and a grown adult that is getting paid to do a job does something dumb I'm probably going to be less angry at the kid. I hold "seasoned" adults to a higher standard.
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    Some schools allow students to sample one such school is Brown University...maybe the student did under grad work at such a school and did not realize that NYU did not have the sample policy
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    Quote from Tait
    And in all reality it doesn't change much about the core discussions that happen around entitlement, respect, and student/educator interactions.
    It really doesn't. I read the end, but the idea behind the discussion remains the same.
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    I'm with the professor on this one. The student was disrespectful and rude whether intentionally or not. Yes, the professor was harsh in his response. But if this were a grad student, how did they ever get so far without mastering the basic principle of respect and punctuality? It sounds like it was about time for some tough love. I know I would be upset if my relief nurse showed up an hour late for her shift and said she was sampling other units
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    Quote from Griffin123
    I think it's important to remember that 18-25 year olds are not known for their sense of responsibility and common sense. These things develop with time.
    Are you saying that because he is young that it's ok to be rude and not have classroom manners? Responsibility and educational decorum are usually established before high school. The rules are simple...go to class, get there ON TIME, or there will be consequences.
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    This is wonderful. I firmly believe that good manners and consideration for others make up the building block of a successful career. if you don't have those two things are not going to succeed in life
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    Quote from Jennybrie

    Are you saying that because he is young that it's ok to be rude and not have classroom manners? Responsibility and educational decorum are usually established before high school. The rules are simple...go to class, get there ON TIME, or there will be consequences.
    Are you saying its appropriate for an allegedly wise authority figure to be rude? The idea that treating people poorly is warranted if you think they did something to deserve it is immature in itself. Even moreso when talking about a "professional" and a pupil.
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    Quote from Jennybrie
    Are you saying that because he is young that it's ok to be rude and not have classroom manners? Responsibility and educational decorum are usually established before high school. The rules are simple...go to class, get there ON TIME, or there will be consequences.
    No. Do not put words into my mouth. What "I am saying" can best be summarized by ...reading what I wrote.


    Kids (young adults) do stupid things. We all have. It's annoying, yes. But If a kid does something dumb and a grown adult that is getting paid to do a job does something dumb I'm probably going to be less angry at the kid. I hold "seasoned" adults to a higher standard.
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    Can't the student just look at RateMyProfessor.com to find a teacher and class they think will be a good fit and then live with their decision, like the rest of us? Not every class is great.
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    Quote from CDEWannaBe
    Can't the student just look at RateMyProfessor.com to find a teacher and class they think will be a good fit and then live with their decision, like the rest of us? Not every class is great.
    Yep. That is an excellent website, too!
    Last edit by Griffin123 on Apr 12, '13
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