Hospitals hiring BSN & Obamacare

[studentbear]

I'm wondering, with Obamacare gearing up to begin next year and baby boomers getting ready to retire, would hospitals potentially revert back to hiring ADNs again? Where I live, pretty much all of the hospitals only hire BSNs and it's discouraging as I would like to get my ADN first.

Thought?

[studentbear, CNA]

Why would the PPACA affect which nurses hospitals choose to hire?

I've heard that since the PPACA will increase the amount of patients seen, the job demand will increase as well. With this increase, I was wondering if hospitals would choose to be less strict about their preference for BSN, since they will supposedly be needing more nurses.

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

I've heard that since the PPACA will increase the amount of patients seen, the job demand will increase as well. With this increase, I was wondering if hospitals would choose to be less strict about their preference for BSN, since they will supposedly be needing more nurses.

More like expecting the nurses to do more with less help. Look at all of the hospitals that are involved in layoffs (Vanderbilt, several in Indiana, etc.).

[KelRN215, BSN, RN]

I've heard that since the PPACA will increase the amount of patients seen, the job demand will increase as well. With this increase, I was wondering if hospitals would choose to be less strict about their preference for BSN, since they will supposedly be needing more nurses.

Eh I think it's way more likely that hospitals will just expecting their existing nurses to do more work. I also don't really think that the amount of inpatients is going to change much... I don't see hospitals opening up more beds because of this.

[NicuGal, MSN, RN]

It has nothing to do with the Healthcare Act. Where I live the large teaching hospitals are hiring BSN, my hospital has quit looking at ADN. The other two are hiring 99% BSN. Smaller community hospitals hire more ADN unless they are Magnet status and have meet the percentage requirement.

[soxgirl2008]

I don't think obamacare will really have any impact on it, but as others have said it really depends where you live...I live in Wisconsin and plenty of hospitals still hire a lot of ADNs. Even magnet hospitals will hire ADN's sometimes if they've had prior healthcare experience. Some magnet hospitals will tell you they don't hire ADN's, but I know they do if it's the right candidate because I know people that have gotten in. You may need to look at more rural hospitals or smaller community hospitals, but there are hospitals out there hiring ADNs. The hospital I work at is at least 50% ADN, many of them in ICU, cardiac step down, surgery, ER, etc.

I know how you feel. Where I live there is only one public university that offers BSN and you need at least a 3.7 GPA to get in and it's extremely competitive. When i first started college I was a different major and didn't care about grades and my grades just weren't competitive enough. My only other choice was a private BSN and pay 80,000 or the local ADN program. I live on my own, work, and don't have the money for a private BSN program, but I plan to bridge right away (and most of my prior college credits from the university transfer. I'll only need 6-7 classes for my RN-BSN). It's good to get your BSN right away, but it's just not feasible for everyone.

My advice would be try to get a nurse intern position or some kind of CNA/nurse tech job at a hospital during school. The people I know who had the easiest time finding a job already had some sort of healthcare job...And be open to LTC facilities, rehab, clinic, etc. Like others have said most of the projected growth in nursing is outside the hospital. I know everyone and their mom wants to work in a hospital, but there are so many other areas of nursing that will need jobs filled too

[PMFB-RN, RN]

Not gonna happen. The BSN horse is out of the barn and is not going back. Nothing whatsoever to do with the ACA.

The BSN is here to stay, at least until nursing's insecurity and lack of self esteem cause it to start demanding graduate degrees.

History repeats itself.

[PMFB-RN, RN]

Smaller community hospitals hire more ADN unless they are Magnet status and have meet the percentage requirement.

What are the percentage requirements for Magnet?

[wooh, BSN, RN]

Growth is going to be in outpatient. People who have health insurance can get care BEFORE they get so bad they need to be hospitalized.

[Not_A_Hat_Person, RN]

Good to know! I've noticed the unemployed nurses are the ones that want a specific type of job and a specific shift.

Picky can be good. Taking the wrong nursing job can be worse than not working in nursing. LTC can be extremely dangerous to a new grad's license. When things go really badly, the Board of Nursing doesn't care if you're overwhelmed, overworked, or had an inadequate orientation.

[NicuGal, MSN, RN]

Each hospital acts a goal for the percentage. All of our big hospitals are 70% and higher, but as people with ADN's leave they replace them with BSN. Our hospital has been circular filing any apps that are not BSN. Ultimate goal=100%

[Do-over, ASN, RN]

I think my hospital would be screwed if they tried to hire only BSN. There simply aren't that many around.

It must be a regional thing. Although some systems state BSN is preferred, I know ADNs that have been hired in every system in the region.

It REALLY helps to have a job in a system before you graduate - tech, CNA, etc.

[llg, PhD, RN]

What are the percentage requirements for Magnet?

There is no specific required percentage for Magnet. However, hospitals are supposed to have a plan in place to increase its percentage of BSN's ... in the hopes of reaching the goal of 80% by 2020.

Each hospital sets its own particular yearly goals.