Forced wearing of nursing cap. - page 8

I'm a senior registered nursing student and our school has a pinning ceremony to mark the completion of our program. Our class contains about 20% men, equal split of black and white in both... Read More

  1. Visit  psu_213 profile page
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    Quote from onetiredstudent
    From another perspective: should a school that receives money from the federal government in the forms of financial aid be permitted to discriminate against a student based on sex?
    I'm sorry, but wearing a cap for a ceremony is NOT discrimination when taken in the light of federal funding. Why are you trying to turn it into that??

    If they said "men wears suits, women wear bikinis"...yes that is discrimination. I know the example seems silly, but not more silly than that saying being "forced" to wear a cap is discrimination.

    Sorry, to get worked up about you comment, but this sort of "victim" talk is really going to far!
    Last edit by psu_213 on Dec 13, '12
  2. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    I DEMAND nurses wear caps! And judges powdered wigs. And all doctors need to wear those white tunics with the funny collars. And those headbands with the little mirror thingies. And farmers really should only wear overalls. Basicly, everyone should look like they just stepped out of some five year old's book about "what I want to be when I grow up". It's TRADITION!!!
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  3. Visit  FDW630 profile page
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    Honestly, who cares?? It is not discrimination, and it is two hours of your life. Nobody is saying you can't become a nurse if you refuse to go along with a tradition that you think is stupid. It is important to the majority of your classmates, so get over it. Really. There are so many more important things in life and nursing than whether or not the cap is stupid. Wear it or don't, and move on.

    It is shameful how quick some people are to play the victim card when they disagree with something these days.
  4. Visit  psu_213 profile page
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    Quote from Kooky Korky
    OP, contact someone at EEOC or some other federal agency or your Senators' offices for direction and guidance. Someone federal should teach your school about the LAW. Civil rights or something like that. Go for it, OP. you might never have to work again if you can sue the school for violating your civil rights.
    I would think about my future in this profession (and how future employers look upon such an action) before I went to such an extreme over such a trivial issue.
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  5. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    My attitude is also "who cares?". As in "who cares if she comes to graduation without a cap on?" If her classmates get all spazed out about her not wearing a cap it's on *them*. What, is one female student showing up uncapped going to ruin their special "look at me, I'm a princess" day? Graduating from nursing school is it's own honor. One (or more) student refusing to wear a silly cap isn't going to ruin anything.
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  6. Visit  FDW630 profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    My attitude is also "who cares?". As in "who cares if she comes to graduation without a cap on?" If her classmates get all spazed out about her not wearing a cap it's on *them*. What, is one female student showing up uncapped going to ruin their special "look at me, I'm a princess" day? Graduating from nursing school is it's own honor. One (or more) student refusing to wear a silly cap isn't going to ruin anything.
    I agree with you. I don't think it should matter either way. But I wouldn't be feeling victimized if I lost a majority vote. It would be dumb and I wouldn't want to wear one, but I'm not going to miss my pinning over a little white hat. Even for principle. It isn't an important issue to be riled up over either way. Woosah is the name of the game.
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  7. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Quote from FDW630
    I agree with you. I don't think it should matter either way. But I wouldn't be feeling victimized if I lost a majority vote. It would be dumb and I wouldn't want to wear one, but I'm not going to miss my pinning over a little white hat. Even for principle. It isn't an important issue to be riled up over either way. Woosah is the name of the game.
    I'll agree with this to some extent. It occurs to me that if the OP is the type of person who would make a stand over her principles regarding the hat, then she's also probably not the type of person who places a lot of sentimentality in some pinning ceremony. Why not just skip the ceremony all together? It just doesn't seem like a battle worth fighting, even though I think she's in the right.
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  8. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Sometimes is about wearing the cap......sometimes it's making you take the flu vaccine. There will be things in nursing that you won't want to do but you must because "they" said so....np perfume, no ink, no rings, no fake nails.....the list goes on. In nursing you will be asked to conform.

    Personally....I was very proud of my cap. It DROVE me crazy and I took every opportunity to take it off.....but I was very proud of it.
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  9. Visit  psu_213 profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    My attitude is also "who cares?". As in "who cares if she comes to graduation without a cap on?" If her classmates get all spazed out about her not wearing a cap it's on *them*. What, is one female student showing up uncapped going to ruin their special "look at me, I'm a princess" day? Graduating from nursing school is it's own honor. One (or more) student refusing to wear a silly cap isn't going to ruin anything.
    I tend to agree with you.

    However, I was leading a class meeting about our pinning ceremony. The topic of how to dress came up. Someone said jeans with a nice shirt (polo, button down, etc.) was appropriate. Someone else said "no, you are ruining the decorum of my (yes, their words) ceremony and ruining my accomplishment by not being dressed your best." The person who wanted to wear jeans was a male and the student who objected to it was a female. A fairly civil debate ensued. The prevailing attitude was that men will look professional in ties and dress pants/a suit (with no jeans), but it would be professional for women to wear jeans with a nice top (dress sweater, jacket, etc). The vote on the pinning ceremony dress code was just that--men in dress pants, women could wear jeans. (Class was majority female.) The college still has financial support from the federal government.
  10. Visit  somenurse profile page
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    Quote from Esme12
    Sometimes is about wearing the cap......sometimes it's making you take the flu vaccine. There will be things in nursing that you won't want to do but you must because "they" said so....np perfume, no ink, no rings, no fake nails.....the list goes on. In nursing you will be asked to conform.

    Personally....I was very proud of my cap. It DROVE me crazy and I took every opportunity to take it off.....but I was very proud of it.

    You make a good point,
    but
    the other restrictions actually have some rational basis, and are applied to both genders equally. It's not quite the same thing. The no perfume, is for asthmatics or others who might find the scent overwhelming.
    The no rings, no nails, are to reduce surfaces which may harbor germs. The flu shots are thought to reduce our chance of infecting our patients or coworkers.

    The pointy hat has no rational basis, is not viewed in the same way by all people,
    and is NOT applied evenly to both genders. THAT is the objection being put forth.
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  11. Visit  somenurse profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    I'll agree with this to some extent. It occurs to me that if the OP is the type of person who would make a stand over her principles regarding the hat, then she's also probably not the type of person who places a lot of sentimentality in some pinning ceremony. Why not just skip the ceremony all together? It just doesn't seem like a battle worth fighting, even though I think she's in the right.

    You make a good point,
    but, who knows? maybe the OP does want to attend her pinning ceremony,
    but,
    is just embarrassed to wear what looks like a frenchmaid's costume. One can be VERY sentimental, very eager to have her moment to mark this big event,
    and still not want to look like a frenchmaid, or participate in what might feel like an insulting or sexist headgear.
    Last edit by somenurse on Dec 13, '12
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  12. Visit  x_factor profile page
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    Gotta love it when the "discrimination" card is pulled out over something this mundane. It's a hat. Wear it or don't. But out of all the trials and tribulations of nursing school, and a HAT is what puts a kink in your gears? I'd just be happy I'm graduating, happy I made it through. I'd probably do a backflip across the stage while wearing a chicken suit if they asked me to, just to know that my journey was finally complete and I was graduating. Something as absurd as wearing a hat or not would not even begin to put a damper on my happiness to be graduating. I'd wear it with a smile.

    It's a hat. It's just not that serious.
  13. Visit  somenurse profile page
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    Quote from FDW630
    Honestly, who cares?? It is not discrimination, and it is two hours of your life. Nobody is saying you can't become a nurse if you refuse to go along with a tradition that you think is stupid. It is important to the majority of your classmates, so get over it. Really. There are so many more important things in life and nursing than whether or not the cap is stupid. Wear it or don't, and move on.

    It is shameful how quick some people are to play the victim card when they disagree with something these days.

    I don't view the OP posting some thread on nursing forum is "playing the victim card." The OP has a valid point, this is a nonsensical rule. It literally,
    Makes No Sense.


    and yes,
    it is discrimination, since only those without penises are being forced to wear to the pointy hat to attend this big event. for most nurses,
    the pinning ceremony is a big event,
    and to this day,
    most of us can remember it well, and can remember how it felt to have that moment.
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