Forced wearing of nursing cap. - page 19

by onetiredstudent 22,152 Views | 253 Comments

I'm a senior registered nursing student and our school has a pinning ceremony to mark the completion of our program. Our class contains about 20% men, equal split of black and white in both genders. I am approaching 50 and... Read More


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    As for the OP, I hope she didn't make a huge deal of this and/or skip her pinning.

    Skipping the pinning is something you would regret down the road as it is a milestone.

    Making a big deal out of it really burns bridges with admin and faculty that you may need for references down the road.
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    Quote from nurseywifeymommy1
    More than 1/2 in my class wanted to wear the hat. We weren't given an option. We didnt wear hats . So I went online and bought one for myself!! I'm going to get pro pics taken with it on.
    This is what I did as well. We were not offered the option of caps, and were told specifically that we were not allowed caps at pinning.

    However, I did purchase one and after the pinning ceremony my family and I took pictures with the cap on.

    It meant a lot to my mother and also my kids got a kick out of it.
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    Quote from PatMac10,SN
    Don't be ludicrous. Segregation is a belittling and illegal force that went on for Years. It put one person above another, and deemed the slave as an unintelligent Living thing. So that comparison was in NO WAY justifiable. Also the OP and get other classmates had a voice in the matter, many times oppressed people NEVER did. Under the name of democracy, the class voted, and the OP lost. End if story. She can fight it, that's her right. However I doubt the the program director would budge unless half the class or more had an issue with it. My program voted on it and came to that conclusion.

    Firstly, the wearing cap, especially now-a-days at pinnings, was never meant as a negative sign or derogatory action. It signified that you were a special person. It is meant to be an honor, not a tribulation. Women wear them at pinning for a brief time because of the many of the intelligent people that helped structure the current nursing practice wore those caps, which signified they were trusted healers.

    So women have only been oppressed for a few months, thus it's ok?

    If wearing the cap is such an "honor," it's not fair to not allow the men to be equally honored.
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    Quote from wooh

    So women have only been oppressed for a few months, thus it's ok?
    If wearing the cap is such an "honor," it's not fair to not allow the men to be equally honored.
    Because its part of the females uniform. Duh!
    Plus the OP had a clear choice. She doesn't have to wear the thing, just if she doesn't she can't participate, it's simple.



    Personally if I was director of her program it wouldn't matter to me, but whatever was decided would have to be uniform across the board. The only way to ensure uniformity is via a majority vote or executive decision. The school reserves the power to dictate what it's uniform policy will be for clinical, special ceremonies, and graduations.

    Unfortunately democracy has its flaws in some cases, it doesn't cater to the wants of the minority.
    Last edit by PatMac10,RN on Dec 18, '12
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    Quote from de2013
    Wow. This is such gross misrepresentation of the situation
    How is it a gross misrepresentation? One class of people is forced to do something that another class of people is not.
    If you don't like the, "Stand in the back" then change it to black people have to wear a hat, white people in the class can't wear a hat. Discrimination? Maybe unimportant (to you) discrimination, but is that discrimination? Would you tell a black man to just go along and wear the hat?
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    We voted also and we wore the cap and a white nursing dress with white hose and white nursing shoes. There were some women in the white pants and men had a different white scrub top. It's tradition and although I didn't like the hat I felt like part of a family of nurses and wore it proudly. I viewed it as more of a symbol than anything else. I hope you don't miss your pinning because of the cap. Best of luck.
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    Quote from wooh
    How is it a gross misrepresentation? One class of people is forced to do something that another class of people is not.
    If you don't like the, "Stand in the back" then change it to black people have to wear a hat, white people in the class can't wear a hat. Discrimination? Maybe unimportant (to you) discrimination, but is that discrimination? Would you tell a black man to just go along and wear the hat?
    One had no idea a square meter or less of fabric could make so many women feel "threatened" and or some how diminished.

    As for the discrimination thing, it always amazes one how so many females pick and choose that battle. Wedding veils, high heels, Spanx, girdles, control top panty hose and a whole lot of other assorted items have their roots in the subjugations of females yet that does not seem to bother scores of American women. Indeed the inventor of Spanx is a billionare from her invention so that speaks to a quite large demand.

    On another matter of "discrimination" it is also a wonder how so many Amercian women will jump to claim such things when it works in their favor. Social Security and certain other tax/federal benefits are all skewed and or were designed for the *ahem* protection of women,wives and mothers. It is mainly out of equality laws they apply both ways, but by and large their purpose was to benefit the fair sex. That somehow does not bother many women so much.

    More and more employers of all sorts and that includes hospitals when seeking nurses are looking for team players and or those who are willing to put certain personal quibbles aside for the greater good. If the OP and others are going to nail their colours over wearing a cap for the <three hours of so of a graduation/pinning ceremony I wish them the best of luck in future.
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    So OP should be a "team player." If OP was a black person being forced to wear a hat because of her skin color rather than her genitalia, would you be telling OP to be a team player?
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    Quote from wooh

    How is it a gross misrepresentation? One class of people is forced to do something that another class of people is not.
    If you don't like the, "Stand in the back" then change it to black people have to wear a hat, white people in the class can't wear a hat. Discrimination? Maybe unimportant (to you) discrimination, but is that discrimination? Would you tell a black man to just go along and wear the hat?
    You can continue to change the scenario in attempt to make a case for discrimination, but in the end, it is not applicable to the original scenario or the OP.

    Perhaps you are defining discrimination as simple differentiation, in that case it's true, I would be able to discriminate/differentiate who was male or female by their hat. The problems when you make the leap to arguing that by wearing said hat (or by nature of their gender) they are being subjected to some form of preferential or detrimental treatment, which is simply not the case.
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    So how much can they force on women but not on men before it's "discrimination" if this isn't it? Where's the line for you? Can they require women to wear headscarves to class? To clinical as part of the women's clinical uniform? Can they require transvaginal ultrasounds for the school physical? Can they give men and women different exams? Where is the line? Because obviously it's in a much different place for me (who thinks there shouldn't be a different requirement on any of this between the men and women.)
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