Cheating in the Classroom - page 3

by meatballgirl

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This is a howdunit more than a whodunit. There is a student in my nursing class who is getting 100% on almost all her med surg exams. I'm pretty sure she's cheating, but I don't know how. And I was wondering if anyone who's... Read More


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    I agree. The students she is bribing to help her are just as guilty of acedemic dishonesty. Which is a dismissable offense where I went to school
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    The first thing that popped into my head when reading this was "good lord". It gets so old when someone accuses others of cheating because they got a good grade, or even a 100. We've had some students make 100's on tests when others make 50's. I, myself, have made 96's and 98's on "hard med/surg tests" when the class average was a 70somethin. It sounds like you're getting wrapped up in all the gossip and rumors and it's gonna bite you in the backside eventually. How do you know they get 100's? How do you know what they do in their clinical? How do YOU know, other than the he said she said crap? And think long and hard before you get involved in a rumor involving a teacher. Accuse a teacher of cheating, only to find out the student really does have some test taking skills....you find yourself out of the program for slander I bet. And here's another bit of advice, if you do "know" someone is cheating and don't report it, you're guilty of cheating as well. If any ONE of the people gets in trouble for knowing someone cheats and not reporting it...they'll be QUICK to say "well this person and that person, and this person knows!". And then it snowballs to where everyone who knows, is now in hot water. Mind your business, be happy someone's gettin an A...and well hell, ask the person how they get their grades? Maybe they'll share some study tips, or tutor you, or guide you to practice questions. You and the others gotta grow up a bit, no room for this gossip mess
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    Unless you have any actual evidence to support your allegations, I suggest you mind your own business. If this student is in fact cheating, she will either be caught at some point, fail her clinicals or eventually fail the boards. Its not your problem.
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    Quote from meatballgirl
    This is a howdunit more than a whodunit.
    This student reads, writes, and speaks English horribly. I mean horribly. We had this one project on which she completely wrote the wrong things for every section. She could barely copy the English words correctly on her paper, let alone understand what they mean. In clinicals, she can't really follow directions well. She doesn't understand fully what's being said. Yet, on these really hard med surg tests where even the best students in the class who are US native speakers can't get a perfect score, she's getting a 100%. Perfect, more than once.
    I would like to point out that just because the "cheater" in question cannot read or speak english well (sounds like she's from another country?) doesn't mean she isn't smart enough to earn 100's. One of my classmates in one of my pre-req classes is from Mexico, he came here a few years ago. He has a very, very thick accent, and when writing he often confuses his words when writing by hand (he's a business major, not nursing). For writing assignments, the teacher allows him to do his work on the computer so Microsoft Word can help him with his wording. He is also seeing a tutor to help him improve his english skills while in college. However, he has got to be the most intelligent person I've met yet. He is acing some of the highest level honors math classes in the college (in fact, he has tutored ME for my math class!), he is a psychology and sociology buff and can make your brain spin with the wealth of knowledge that he knows. But he just has a little trouble conveying it in english when speaking, and moreso when writing. But in his classes, he is a complete whiz kid.

    Never judge a book by its cover. Just because she has a more difficult time conveying things in english, does not mean she isn't very intelligent when it comes to retaining and recalling information she learns in the classroom.
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    My two cents....If you dont have proof you have nothing....I would ignore this person and focus on your work. Like previous folks have posted, this is going to catch up to them eventually. Failing the boards will cook their goose.
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    Paying students to do her work is enough proof of cheating, in my opinion. Screw the test scores.
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    Quote from x_factor
    I would like to point out that just because the "cheater" in question cannot read or speak english well (sounds like she's from another country?) doesn't mean she isn't smart enough to earn 100's. One of my classmates in one of my pre-req classes is from Mexico, he came here a few years ago. He has a very, very thick accent, and when writing he often confuses his words when writing by hand (he's a business major, not nursing). For writing assignments, the teacher allows him to do his work on the computer so Microsoft Word can help him with his wording. He is also seeing a tutor to help him improve his english skills while in college. However, he has got to be the most intelligent person I've met yet. He is acing some of the highest level honors math classes in the college (in fact, he has tutored ME for my math class!), he is a psychology and sociology buff and can make your brain spin with the wealth of knowledge that he knows. But he just has a little trouble conveying it in english when speaking, and moreso when writing. But in his classes, he is a complete whiz kid.

    Never judge a book by its cover. Just because she has a more difficult time conveying things in english, does not mean she isn't very intelligent when it comes to retaining and recalling information she learns in the classroom.
    I'm thinking she meant that she has so much trouble with English it's weird she's doing so well on a test that is in English. Not that she wouldn't understand it in her own native language but it's suspicious to not be able to speak the language and still get 100's. If you went to Germany not speaking German well, you'd probably get a low grade on a test in German even if you could get 100% in English.
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    Or you could just spend more time studying yourself and not worry about others..just a thought
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    As a nursing student myself, I do not worry about other classmate's grades. Yeah, it's nice when you do well to tell your friend or when you don't do well to share with others to see if the test stumped them also. However, if she is cheating it will hurt her in the end. Hopefully, the instructors are not involved. Maybe they are as stumped as you are but cannot pursue her with only allegations. However, even if they do pass her (which would mean lying on their clinical evaluations of her) she more than likely will not get far in the medical world. Hospitals, doctors, etc. would not want to be held accountable for her mistakes and lack of understanding. It will cost them not only large amounts of money but also reputation. It is my experience working as an aide and a medical assistant that they do not last long in a job and eventially become flagged on the state board of nursing and cannot find work as a nurse. Just push through with your studies to control your own destiny. Best of luck!
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    I'm in the let-it-go camp, and I'm also confused why you want to know how she's doing it (if she's doing it), especially if you don't plan on replicating her methods.

    Anyway, my one exception to letting it go if her cheating or dishonesty interferes with any projects you have to work on together. It sounds like it already has, but from your OP it sounds like you've waited and watched her for a while. If it comes up again and you are directly involved, then by all means do whatever your school asks you to in this situation. Otherwise, I don't see that you gain much by thinking about it at ALL anymore.


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