Why Can they Do it from Overseas?

  1. I'm and Lpn with several years experance. I work with a CNA who is from another country. She claims in her country she was a nurse and is studing to challenge the RN boards. Not to sound deragitory, but how can she verify her training? What about all this "advanced learning"? Honestly, how much did she work with cutting edge tech, ICU, vented pts and with an understanding of blood gases in a third world country? Why is it she can come from overseas, with no way to verify the quality of her education and get the chance to challange the NCLEX and I'd have to take 3 more semesters of classes and clinicals (not to mention English Comp. 2!! ) to be given the same chance? :angryfire If you know the legal reasons for it, or a way to get this HUGE loophole to work for me (Say, a vacation overseas...) Let me know!

    Hugs,

    Christina
    Last edit by christinaquilter on Oct 27, '06
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  3. by   skipaway
    Quote from christinaquilter
    I'm and Lpn with several years experance. I work with a CNA who is from another country. She claims in her country she was a nurse and is studing to challenge the RN boards. Not to sound deragitory, but how can she verify her training? What about all this "advanced learning"? Honestly, how much did she work with cutting edge tech, ICU, vented pts and with an understanding of blood gases in a third world country? Why is it she can come from overseas, with no way to verify the quality of her education and get the chance to challange the NCLEX and I'd have to take 3 more semesters of classes and clinicals (not to mention English Comp. 2!! ) to be given the same chance? :angryfire If you know the legal reasons for it, or a way to get this HUGE loophole to work for me (Say, a vacation overseas...) Let me know!

    Hugs,

    Christina
    Have you spent time with her and asked her what experiences she had in her home country? Alot of "3rd world" countries have high tech hospitals with vents (do you think their nurses hand bag the critically ill?). If she graduated from an accredited nursing program in her home country, transcripts are available for her to submit to the accrediting body of this country. We've interviewed many prospective SRNA (nurse anesthesia) students who did get educated in the third world. They do come with documentation of their education and the types of ICUs they worked in. She should get credit for her nursing education and if she passes the NCLEX, it will show that she did have a decent education over there.

    with respect.
  4. by   TazziRN
    She would have to prove graduation from a nursing school and previous employment as one, at the very least.
  5. by   Silverdragon102
    As a foreign trained nurse presently going through the process to move to the USA I can honestly say that before passing NCLEX I have had to jump through hoops and prove my nurse training. For the US as a foreign nurse you don't have to pass or take local license but do have to prove that your nurse training matches the requirements for the state BON. So I am not sure how she can challenge the boards unless she has sent her transcripts but may have some problems with hours and she is challenging that.
  6. by   santhony44
    I personally know one nurse trained as an RN in Mexico. She had great difficulty trying to get her transcripts and records from Mexico.

    She ended up taking an LVN program- the whole thing- and becoming an LVN here. She's now working on her RN. (Despite repeated requests, payments, and a family member visiting the school, she still can't get her transcripts).

    So no, I don't think that anyone can come here from another country with no proof of education and experience and challenge the NCLEX.
  7. by   Kyrshamarks
    Ok as a "foriegn" trained nurse who happens to be a white american male. I just happened to decide to go to nursing school in the Philippines when i was young and in the service over there instead of sitting around getting drunk all the time I can attest to the fact that there are just as many high tech hospitals overseas as there are over here in the USA and they have just as many vented patients and ICU's as we have. The training we recieved was just as intensive and in some areas even more intensive and harder. I also had to show my transcripts (and have them sent over from the nursing school)and yes as an American I still had to take the CGFNS. The word choice of this lady may be wrong in saying challenging but the education is verifiable and the course is transferable in many countries.
  8. by   ZootRN
    Nobody is able to "challenge" NCLEX without proof of nursing education equivalent to nursing education in US. If she is allowed to sit for boards, it means her education was verified and approved.
  9. by   christinaquilter
    I stand corrected. Thank you for clearing up my ignorance.:imbar

    Warmly,

    Christina
  10. by   Silverdragon102
    sometimes it is worth checking out the international forum a bit further down the main page and people can see the sort of things which nurses have to go through to move from one country to another. Not always as easy as you think.

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