Why are nurses disrespected so much? - page 7

Hi all! I just started our clinical this week as a new nursing student and there is something that's been bothering me and I just can't seem to come to terms with it... why are nurses so... Read More

  1. by   Tammi123
    Seriously, ever heard of eating your young? Give the poor kid a break about the user name. Are we really SO insecure that a student that is working towards being a nurse is such a threat? They are very concerned about the way that patients treat nurses. This is a very valid concern and one we should address and help them to find their way toward resolving. Making the user name the issue is a coup out. Avoiding an issue that all "nurses"- experienced, newbie or student need to unite to address. This is part of the problem. We let levels of experience and ego get in the way of a united front that makes us all stronger. Support this individual and offer up your own experience, don't be threatened by someone that is seeing things with fresh eyes.
  2. by   TriciaJ
    Quote from Tammi123
    Seriously, ever heard of eating your young? Give the poor kid a break about the user name. Are we really SO insecure that a student that is working towards being a nurse is such a threat? They are very concerned about the way that patients treat nurses. This is a very valid concern and one we should address and help them to find their way toward resolving. Making the user name the issue is a coup out. Avoiding an issue that all "nurses"- experienced, newbie or student need to unite to address. This is part of the problem. We let levels of experience and ego get in the way of a united front that makes us all stronger. Support this individual and offer up your own experience, don't be threatened by someone that is seeing things with fresh eyes.
    It is illegal and against terms of service to misrepresent oneself as a nurse.
  3. by   Kcarolynne1
    I believe that being in the profession for 27 years the answer is simple. We are a female dominated profession. Women do not stick together and do not work towards solidarity in a belief. Nurses will only fight for something when it effects them instead of fighting before it effects you. Only nurses supply their uniforms. Pay for parking and won't get PTSD coverage. Teachers fire fighters and police are all respected and spoken of often as saviours never nurses, it's our job. Police and firefighters are given awards for saving lives most of the time we aren't even recognized the Dr gets it all. Stand tall be strong. Don't let other nurses bring you down they are the weak ones and bully to feel competent. Nurses will treat you with respect gravitate towards them, they offer you the most in knowledge. Nursing is great I would do it again in a heartbeat. I just wish we could stand together and be a stronger force. And pts are able to bully nurses because the institutions we work for tolerate it and accept it because only then would they not want to lose a pt for sticking up rightfully for the nurse. Good luck you will be great recognizing that so early. Change it if you can.
  4. by   Altra1992
    I work in a city centre ED so a lot of our clientele suffer from drug and alcohol addiction. You can imagine that verbal and occasional physical assault is part of that territory. However for the most part I find negative experiences from patients towards staff generally have a reason (pain, long waits, no sleep, noisy packed environment, feeling their needs are not met due to us being short staffed, psych issues and substance abuse)
    you learn to deal with these encounters in a polite and positive way and you will feel better off for it.
    you're too new in the game to feel so negative, let yourself be open minded, be positive, smile even when you're not feeling it, be enthusiastic and keep your head down while concentrating on your studies. Trust me that will carry you through to being a qualified nurse with a much better view of a fantastic profession.
    As for my relationship with nursing and medical colleagues I find you get what you give. I love my nursing colleagues and we keep each other going. You will make life long friends over the course of your nursing career and some of them will be doctors.
    When you are a qualified nurse you will then be in a position to not accept grief from an occasional doctor who may climb up on their high horse.
    Until then, heed my above advice and enjoy being a student with it all ahead of you.

    Just realised how how long this post is, sorry.
  5. by   Altra1992
    I work in a city centre ED so a lot of our clientele suffer from drug and alcohol addiction. You can imagine that verbal and occasional physical assault is part of that territory. However for the most part I find negative experiences from patients towards staff generally have a reason (pain, long waits, no sleep, noisy packed environment, feeling their needs are not met due to us being short staffed, psych issues and substance abuse)
    you learn to deal with these encounters in a polite and positive way and you will feel better off for it.
    you're too new in the game to feel so negative, let yourself be open minded, be positive, smile even when you're not feeling it, be enthusiastic and keep your head down while concentrating on your studies. Trust me that will carry you through to being a qualified nurse with a much better view of a fantastic profession.
    As for my relationship with nursing and medical colleagues I find you get what you give. I love my nursing colleagues and we keep each other going. You will make life long friends over the course of your nursing career and some of them will be doctors.
    When you are a qualified nurse you will then be in a position to not accept grief from an occasional doctor who may climb up on their high horse.
    Until then, heed my above advice and enjoy being a student with it all ahead of you.

    Just realised how how long this post is, sorry.
  6. by   ladyandthetiger
    The bottom line is Doctors are at the top of the food chain because they ALWAYS back each other up. That is why it is so hard to successfully sue for malpractice - because Doctors stick together, they demand high pay as a group and they (except under extreme conditions) won't ever contradict each other.
    Nurses, however, will always tear each other down, throw each other under the bus and won't stand strong as a group to negotiate better pay and conditions. If nurses supported each other and demanded the pay they deserve- or go on strike - we would all benefit.
  7. by   HelloWish
    I really feel people are treated based on they way they treat others. My experience is yes, there is the occasional person who is a jerk no matter what but in general if you treat others kindly and with respect they often will respond in kind. I have worked at the bedside and saw nurses complain and generally have a bad attitude so their patients respond in a similar way. If you respond respectfully and kindly they are often the same way back.

    I now work outpatient oncology and deal with many patients. When I talk to my patients I do it respectfully and value them as a person, and 99% of the time they respond the same. I have had angry and condescending phone messages left by patients but when I call them back and treat them respectfully their tune changes and they often apologize about their message.

    Change your perspective and look at the world differently and you will find others around you do the same.
    Last edit by HelloWish on Sep 16
  8. by   Hypocaffeinemic
    Bedside nurses are frequently stressed out at work. Too much to do, too many phone calls to handle, and too many split second decisions to be made. Do we get snappish? Absolutely. Is it right? No. We're human. We feel overworked and at times abused.

    Once I know my teammates well, I'll usually respond in humor. Not in the "truth in jest" style of humor, but something that can/will bring a moment of levity into what could otherwise be a very stressful 12 hour day. I tend to run around my unit singing the Mahna-ma-nah song or It's a Brautiful Day in the Neighborhood. I don't feel like my day is complete until at least one person complains about getting an ear worm stuck in their head. I'm the class clown of my unit, and I take that role seriously.

    Ask your instructors for a few key phrases to learn. Try saying something like "You seem to be stressed. What can I do to help you?" That's a huge thing by the way. Offering to help is a great way to deescalate hostility.

    As a previous poster has already quoted, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Be self-confident. If you can't be self-confident, fake it till you make it. (But don't ever lie about your skills or abilities.) Be friendly, even when the other person doesn't really deserve your friendliness.

    I've only been a nurse for 6 years, so I remember well what it feels like to be a student. You think you're under stress in school - we all did. Just keep in mind that in a few years you'll wish for the good old days of nursing school. Try to take as much off of your clinical nurses as you can. Offer to take vitals, give baths, toilet patients; don't let any job be beneath you. A helpful attitude will go a long way in derailing NETY.

    One other thing to remember - every job, unit, or hospital that you go to, you will find that you have to prove yourself all over again. It's probably unique to healthcare, but nobody cares what your previous skills or accolades may have been. They have to know they can trust you with their unit, their patients, and even their reputations. Learn not to resent that; it isn't personal. We all go through it when we start a new job, unit, or clinical assignment.

    Sure you will find nurses throughout your career who are catty. Those people are in every walk of life. Don't make the mistake of painting with too broad a brush. Most "mean" nurses are not truly mean. Always use your critical thinking skills and consider that there very well could be factors that you aren't aware of taking place.

    You'll be ok. Just hang in there. *smile*
  9. by   3ringnursing
    Quote from fitfabfunnurse2b
    There's no RN after my name, I can't change my username now!
    Actually, you can. Go in to DASHBOARD in your account. I think you can change it every 90 days. Totally off topic, but it's easier than you think. If you wanted to, that is.
  10. by   JinnSchlajfertig
    As others have noted, it could be the clinical site. I noted the culture of each unit where I was placed in nursing school so I would know which places to avoid in the future. The culture of the units can make your experience as different as night from day!

    Good for you for noting this and questioning it.
  11. by   learner1108
    Posters, She is new to the profession. She is asking a question based on her observations. The question shows she is worried and probably scared. She is probably asking herself has she wasted all that money taking prerequisites and nursing school tuition.

    She needs reassurance that all nurses are not "mean girls" or guys. Reassure her that she may not understand what she is seeing and the next time she has clinical, she may see a different scene. Please DON"T jump on her and tell her to suck it up or get out of the career. She is new to the profession.

    If she were a 1yo who could talk and was beginning to walk, she might ask, "Why is the ground outside so bumpy?" That would not be disrespectful and the attitude and answers of those who are answering her would not be like some of these answers to this student.

    She is new and scared. Nursing school is hard. Instructors can be scary to students because the students' whole future careers and incomes depend on those instructors' opinions. Be kind to her. She is new. She will learn and become accustomed to the various hospital scenarios and units. Please don't be so hard on her at this stage of her development. We are the experienced nurses and know how to calm those who are scared, generalizing a few happenings to a whole set of people, and making untrue assumptions. So let's do it.

    To the OP: Not all nurses are hateful to each other. You will be fine because you seem sensitive to those around you and their attitudes. Use this sensitivity to learn ways to positively react to people. The why they are that way at this time (perhaps this is a terrible time) is not as important as you learning how to react to the negative activity and/or words.

    Talk with one of your instructors who is a calming, nurturing person and get some tips from him/her on how to react during such behaviors. You will be fine and as someone already said, notice what you don't like and try not to be like that throughout your nursing school experience and career. I wish you the best, sweet new nursing school student.
  12. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from Kcarolynne1
    I believe that being in the profession for 27 years the answer is simple. We are a female dominated profession. Women do not stick together and do not work towards solidarity in a belief.
    Your misogyny is showing. Some women do work together. If your experience is otherwise, one wonders what you were bringing to the table.
  13. by   Dafabb
    Quote from nicuguy
    I generally walk around like I own the place. It's amazing how a little body language goes a long way in the responses you get. Head up, eye contact, walk as if your hips are driving you, and just OWN IT. Of course, this has to be combined with some diplomacy and nursing school will not teach you that. Actually, required reading should be "How to Win Friends & Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. Read it and learn. If nothing else you will take on situations like this in a whole new way. Also, be like a duck and let stupid things just slide right off your back...learn this now...not kidding.
    LMBO This sounds so like me!...As a Nurse who has done about 25 years in agency with a few employed jobs I can truly hold my own. It was show me the med room, dirty laundry room and what kind of charting do you do and I'll ask if I need to. Most Nurses are a good group the select few need to find other jobs...After 40 years I have worked with the best and a few that need daily B12 shots. To know me is just to listen to me talk. I am an open book. Barring the fact you have worked with your friends for many years( did that a long time ago) I do not trust anyone. As agency you go too many places..or I have. After a number of years I finally learned to keep my mouth shut and just do my job. I will help anyone at any time but never tell me no. I had to learn diplomacy and always took constructive criticism from people I truly respect and learned from it because I know my faults. It is a learning curve to let thing fly over your head and just smile. Find a Nurse that you like an emulate her but also make your own ways......

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