What Would You Do?

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i want you guys' opinion on something. i had a really bad day, and instead of explaining what happened, i am going to copy and paste my statement of what occurred that i plan to give to my don and i'd really like some advice. i changed some things for anonymity, which is why it may sound strange, and also it would be helpful for you all to know that we have ongoing problems with this nurse and i've gone to her several times about them.

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on 7.7.04 it was brought to joe supervisor's attention that the quarterly labs on unit b were being filled out improperly by charge nurse and had to be corrected. there was an informal meeting held with myself, lpn #2, joe supervisor and unit manager present to discuss the above at around 10am of the same day.

on 7.8.04 charge nurse told me that she wanted to delegate the task of the special labs on unit b to me since she was having such a hard time with them. i told her that she was responsible for those labs. she then stated that we would speak about the situation at a later time. i then went to joe supervisor to tell him that she had asked me to do this and i had declined. i asked for a meeting to be set up between himself and the unit b nursing staff to clearly outline each staff members duties because many seem to be overlapping. about 20 minutes later, charge nurse came to me, visibly upset, asking why lpn #2 and i have been 'talking about her behind her back' and 'ganging up on her' and 'being mean to her' she told me that she knew we had a meeting about her on the previous day without her being present and that she was angry about it. she said joe supervisor had also spoken with her about the special labs and she said that she thought delegating the special labs to me was 'a compliment' because she likes my work. she asked 'how would you like it if someone was being mean to your daughter like this, wouldn't you want someone to go to her with a problem and not talk behind her back?' i told her that my family has nothing to do with what is going on. i told her that my intention was not to be malicious, but only to discuss problems occurring on the unit with my supervisor. she went on to say that she still believes that lpn #2 and i are being mean to her and she was extremely hurt. she then added that my being mean to her was going to give me 'bad karma' and stated 'it would be unfortunate if your daughter or husband or someone in your family got sick because of this'. at that point, i was very shocked and i told her once again that my family has nothing to do with this situation and that i thought the conversation was taking an extremely unprofessional and threatening turn on her part and that i didn't care to discuss it any longer. i feel that what she said to me about my family was threatening and unnecessary. for the rest of the day while i completed my duties, i was very upset and did not speak with charge nurse except for any necessary work related conversation.

at 2:30pm charge nurse called me in to the chart room where she had a write up for me. she said that it was a verbal consultation and that it will stay in my file for 6 months. she said she could have given me a written, but wanted to give me a chance like she wishes i had given her a chance. i feel that this write up was retaliation for my going to the supervisor with an issue since the write up really has no merit. i did, however, sign the write up without adding my own comments because i was upset and didn't want to get into another confrontation with charge nurse.

Specializes in HIV/AIDS, Dementia, Psych.
Never, never sign trash like that. Take it to your union official.

I know...hindsight is 20/20 and there are a lot of things I wish I had said/done differently. Like I said, I just wanted to get out of there without anoither confrontation and hopefully I will be able to clear this whole thing up on Monday.

lgflamini~ Yes, she does need meds! I don't understand why my facility keeps certain staff around.

Karen~ Yes, that's the chain of command, and in a normal situation, that's what I would have done, but this person is wacked and also...it wasn't me who brought up the incorrect labs in the first place. It was our Nurse Practitioner who went to Joe Supervisor about it and then he called a meeting. Unfortunately, I was the easiest target.

Specializes in Hemodialysis, Home Health.
Even if you technically should have started by talking to Charge Nurse directly, I can certainly see why you didn't! "Freaky" seems to be an understatement (?).

I am baffled as to how Charge Nurse gets to be Charge Nurse when she acts so childish...and I am baffled as to why should would bring your family into it at all? Weird. Does she know your family and/or do her kids go to school with your kids? If so, I would definitely take her comments as a threat and would go up EVERY STEP of the chain of command (including the DON and the HR dept.) until I found someone willing to address this issue with Charge Nurse. (She should be severely reprimanded for her statements and retaliatory actions.)

You are right on the money turning in this writeup to the DON, in my opinion.

BTW, I also think you handled it very well and very professionally when she brought your family into it. This was a great response:

Good job! You kept a "cool head" and said exactly what you should have said here. Called her on it and set the boundaries!

I agree with Karen 100% here.

You did well. I, too, would have chosen to addresse the problem with Charge Nurse initially, simply so that she would have no reason to be ticked that you didn't. She would then have "no excuse".. (not that there IS any excuse for her following behavior and remarks).

As far as her comments go.. I would be LIVID. That is sooooooooooo out of place. Incredible. An extreme attempt at intimidation... very manipulative.

Surely she would have to know that this would bother and worry you... and exactly why she chose to do it.

Then again, who knows WHAT she is capable of if indeed, she is not quite stable? I don't like it one bit, and I would be sure to have her called on it. It was nothing less than a threat made toward your family. :(

Sorry if I gave the impression I thought you should apologize because you'd been in the wrong. I think you were totally right, and agree that you handled the situation very well when she made those remarks about your family. I just mentioned apologizing for upsetting her because you didn't go to her first with your concerns, thinking that that might pacify her enough so you could get it all straightened out. I hate having to work with so much conflict :o

I also think it was pretty tacky for whoever told her about the meeting you guys had in the first place.

Why does it always seem that these weird, troublemaking co-workers are so often in supervisory positions??

Your decision to take a mental health day today was very wise. They are a necessity. Now, try to enjoy your week-end and not stress about Monday.

Specializes in HIV/AIDS, Dementia, Psych.

Well, I had a meeting with the DON and Joe Supervisor about the situation today. The DON's first response was 'Don't worry, nothing is going to happen to your daughter!' DUH!!! That wasn't the point!

Charge Nurse was off today, but Joe Supervisor said we're all going to have a meeting tomorrow and discuss this. The write-up was pulled from my file which made me very happy :) .

I am juat happy that I made everyone aware...that way if she pulls anything else, they'll know about this prior incident.

Remember the days when you just went to work, did your job, and came home? Sheesh!

Thanks again to everyone for listening.

Good for you!! Glad to hear the write up was pulled from your file. Imagine she will be more careful about messing with you in the future. Hopefully anyway :)

Never signs something you truely believe you didn't do. Because when you signed that paper your saying you are one at fault. When you didn't fill in comments in you are fully agreeing to the problem at hand. I hate conflict at work. Thats why Iam not a charge nurse at my hospital (had many offers to be one), hate to create and cause conflict.........:stone

Charge Nurse was off today, but Joe Supervisor said we're all going to have a meeting tomorrow and discuss this.

Please let us know how it goes.

Specializes in Hemodialysis, Home Health.

Glad the joke of a "write up" was pulled.

But my real issue is with her comments to you regarding your daughter/family.

This truly needs to be addressed, and firmly so. If it were me, this person would be soooooooooooo out the door. :stone

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