Should all nurses have their BSN or higher? - page 2

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I work for a hospital in pittsburgh. There are a lot of them and we're called univeristy of pittsburgh medical center (UPMC) for those who aren't familiar. One of the hospitals recently made it mandatory to have your BSN to... Read More


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    Yes Shadyside is in the UPMC system so I agree, it makes no sense. Only one hospital, UPMC Presby is going to do this so far. UPMC will give you only 2000 in tuition assistance if you go to school part time, and 4000 if you go full time which is impossible if you work. And this only applies to schools in Allegheny county. I don't think it's that great of an idea.

    "Given the working conditions in Pittsburgh, I have a feeling that the facility would really be in trouble."----Have you worked or lived in Pittsburgh before? What is your impression of our working conditions caroladybelle???
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    Tweety, I so agree with your thoughts. I am in Canada and a BSN is now the minimum requirement for RN licensure. I am bridging over from being and RPN, (LPN) but i think that this requirement is misguided. I did my preceptorship in a hospital and there were many dedicated and competent RN's who did not have a BSN. In addition, this requirement is leading to severe RN shortages which affects all of us, even LPN's, as we can often be put in situations where we need to negotiate with supervisors to ensure that we are not practicing beyond what we are trained and competetent to be doing, uggh!
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    But that is the thing:

    to make such a mandate without making accomodation would be just like a misguided and poorly-thought administrative move......that is what bugs me. And like Mercy said, not nearly enough time to be feasible.
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    Quote from SandraDeeRN
    Yes Shadyside is in the UPMC system so I agree, it makes no sense. Only one hospital, UPMC Presby is going to do this so far. UPMC will give you only 2000 in tuition assistance if you go to school part time, and 4000 if you go full time which is impossible if you work. And this only applies to schools in Allegheny county. I don't think it's that great of an idea.

    "Given the working conditions in Pittsburgh, I have a feeling that the facility would really be in trouble."----Have you worked or lived in Pittsburgh before? What is your impression of our working conditions caroladybelle???
    I went to Philly and met some travelers with very unfortunate stories regarding Pittsburgh. That and have heard the stories from some nontravelers from there. It doesn't sound all that pleasant. I stayed with Philly, for my "visit" to PA.

    But then, I am a native Floridian and things are not exactly fabulous in my home state, for nurses.

    In my experience, the BSN-only lasts only if you are working at an absolutely wonderful, wellpaying site. Otherwise, give it a year or two, and staffing crunching occurs. That and they need to take more time to phase it in. With the crowding in many nursing programs, it may take that long to get accepted into the transition program.
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    Quote from SandraDeeRN
    I work for a hospital in pittsburgh. There are a lot of them and we're called univeristy of pittsburgh medical center (UPMC) for those who aren't familiar. One of the hospitals recently made it mandatory to have your BSN to work there and if you have your ASN diploma etc you have to get your BSN in two years to keep your job. It's supposed to spread throughout UPMC eventually. I have my ASN but will be attending the University of Pittsburgh for my RN to MSN. Just wanted to know what everyone else thought about this. I know in Pennsylvania there is always talk of getting rid of the ASN and diploma programs which I think is a horrible idea. What are your thoughts?
    You think there is a nursing shortage now...Back in the day they said they were phasing LPNs out.That was like 30 years ago. I wouldnt believe everything ya hear.Thats not even practical.


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