Rude remarks by doc with his own kids

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:uhoh21:last night when i got to work, i was pulled to another floor which did not bother me. as i went walking up the nurse's station, which sits right in front of the elevators, i seen one of our more popular docs finishing rounds with his 2 kids in tow.

doc ben says" ok kids tell them by, kids say by every one ( 7y boy and 4y girl). doc says push the button, the elevators open and he says very loudly ,ok guys let go see the lady with the biggest butt, what floor should we go to? kids reply, we don't know dad. he laughs :lol2::lol2:and says how about the first floor by the cafeteria , that usually where they hang out!!'

now this is not the first remark this doc has made, few weeks back, he had same son and son's friend with them, makes the remark, come on boys, let she go show you a big one!

the nurses on the floor just laughed and said that's doc ben for you.

now what kind of example is he setting for his kids? :madface:not to mention, what if family members or worse yet, one of his pt's heard him.

i did tell my nurse manager, who replied, well there's really nothing we can do about that.

i used to have respect for this man, no longer, how very unprofessional, rude and down right mean.:down::down:

:angryfire:angryfirestill burns me a good one when writing this!!

Specializes in Med-Surg, Tele, DOU.
Yea - apologies to the OP.

In reply to the above post I resepct your views and where you are coming from re - your experience. However, we will have to agree to differ. I feel unable to give detailed background information on my experience here but can say the patient details were being used in research without consent and the children were being paid to do it to save time - in quite a sensitive speciality. Like you say - may be a case by case issue. As a reserach co-ordinator - I have been advised that I would be liable for breach of ethics. Of course - as a nurse among this - I would expect to face a disciplinary hearing or lose my license - doubt the doctor would - maybe that's cynical and maybe I'm not as tolerant as everyone else here - like I say - agree to differ is the best thing - and thanks for your viewpoint.

Ahhh, I see :specs:.

Your second post provides much more information to support your previous statements.

Specializes in Critical Care.

It's a violation of HIPPA thus a violation of the law, pure and simple. No excuses IMNSHO for this Doctors lack of ethics. Get a babysitter and hire an assistant if you need help with the paperwork.

Specializes in OB, HH, ADMIN, IC, ED, QI.
It's a violation of HIPPA thus a violation of the law, pure and simple. No excuses IMNSHO for this Doctors lack of ethics. Get a babysitter and hire an assistant if you need help with the paperwork.

Actually, HIPPA is a "Crock". Patients sign it thinking their privacy will be preserved, but unless all the professionals working with them sign it, too, it's not only meaningless, but frankly a scam perpetrated by our government. The actual purpose of the document is buried in the small print wherein the patients really sign allowing private information to be shared with any insurance company or government agency!

SHAME!!

If you're disposed as I am to object to your Senators, Governor and Representatives in Congress, please join me in doing so. It's a sad day when so blatant a scheme, based on distain for Americans' intelligence, is presented as something to protect them. No wonder there is general distrust of our government!

I never sign it, and even when it's worded as having patients agree that they've been shown that ridiculous piece of garbage, I insist on having the whole thing in my chart, with the sentence regarding the above, scratched out, and I have the physician or individual in admitting initial that. Doctors I know have stopped using it.

Unfortunately we can't advise patients to do likewise, but I encourage everyone I know personally, to do the same as I do. Sorry to digress from kids with physician parents at the hospital...... but as you-all may notice, I'm steamed.:angryfire

Actually, HIPPA is a "Crock". Patients sign it thinking their privacy will be preserved, but unless all the professionals working with them sign it, too, it's not only meaningless, but frankly a scam perpetrated by our government.

You're under the impression that if you don't sign it, it doesn't apply?

Specializes in OB, HH, ADMIN, IC, ED, QI.
You're under the impression that if you don't sign it, it doesn't apply?

This stuff sure is enough to make one very, very tired, doctor.........

I'm under the impression that if my medical information is given to a government or insurance agency without my knowledge and specific permission (such as the fact that I'm BRSA & BRSB+). If that results in my being unable to attain health insurance; and I have huge medical bills (damages) that aren't covered by insurance as a result of that, I will have a good legal case against the agency/doctor who released said information.

Since most patients aren't as opposed as I am to signing a HIPPA form, it's likely the person releasing my information would be unaware that I prohibited it. However ignorance is no useful defense. If I signed it, and then became displeased with the resultant damages, I wouldn't be able to plead ignorance successfully either. That's because everyone should read anything they sign thoroughly, and be free to ammend what is unacceptable to them.

Shortening the HIPPA forms to say the information has been given and received is so misleading and devious, as well as demeaning, as it says people aren't capable of understanding that they're signing something that could bite back at them, so self betrayal can be easier, by just removing the part that disserves them, and have them sign something saying they agree, whether or not they read it, because it was offered!

The tax money that went into deliberating the matter, and preparing the statement is a misuse of public funds! That kind of misuse of time, as well, for something potentially harmful to taxpayers is tantamount to

betrayal of human rights - the right of privacy for self protection against an industry (healthcare insurance) bent on profiting from the avoidance of necessary costs. Equal opportunity is the law, in all aspects of the insurance business as well as others. Those with histories of illness portending increased medical costs in the future have an equal right to insurance, as anyone else. However, that being the case, profiteering insurance companies may well provide policies that are too costly for anyone but the extremely rich, for those having diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and the litany of other diseases that could be ameliorated by timely preventive treatment.

Remember that insurance as an idea, began with hoods demanding "protection money"............. :bugeyes:

I agree - a very poor interaction with his kids. I have to ask - what were his kids in the hospital with him making rounds anyway???

we had a doc who did that - a surgeaon actually - his kids would twirl on the high backed chairs - whilst he made rounds - annoying us and yapping ( like we were babysitters) - one i said to hey knock it off or your gonna need sticthes when ya wap your head on the floor ( hoping the kid wouldnt tell lol ) guess what - he ended up stitching up his kids head lol. never saw them again with him.

arent kids supposed to be "away" or only allowed short visiting periods in the hospital?? and some areas are even prohibited... >.

Maybe he was talking about his ex-wife . . . just kidding.

I have known a number of physicians who round with their children in tow, including one who would wear the "baby-backpack" and round with his sleeping infant. I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with this, nor is it prohibited by any law or regulation that I am aware of.

i dont see anything about it if thje kids are well bahaved and they are older where they cuold sit on thier own in a waiting room, young enough they cant understand whats beig said ( pt confidentiality ya know ) or if teh patient doesnt mind them bring thier kids in to the room.- not at the nursing station being watched by the nurses

My dad rounded with us and when I was older I watched him do infant physicals (with permission of course). My love of medicine has endured and the seed was planted when I was a little girl. He never used the nurses as babysitters, he just wanted to spend time with us since he was so busy. I still hang out in his office or sleep in the intern rooms :) when I visit home. Md's work a lot of hours and have a tough time seeing their family so I think overall it's a positive thing.

As for the doc in the op, what a jerk those poor kids are going to have some screwed up values :(.

My dad rounded with us and when I was older I watched him do infant physicals (with permission of course). My love of medicine has endured and the seed was planted when I was a little girl. He never used the nurses as babysitters, he just wanted to spend time with us since he was so busy. I still hang out in his office or sleep in the intern rooms :) when I visit home. Md's work a lot of hours and have a tough time seeing their family so I think overall it's a positive thing.

As for the doc in the op, what a jerk those poor kids are going to have some screwed up values :(.

that is so great that your dad did and does that. it is a great thing to to be a part of it. i always had wished my aunt who was a nurse lived closer so i could see what it was like when i was younger- i had to findout on my own but i liked it them and would have earlier lol. and even if they dont go to the medical world they get to spend time with dad which is soo important. ( i took my daughetr once but being on a dementia unit she and hubby who picked her up later were both traumatized with what they saw lolo - hubby got hit on the head with shoe by a confused dementia who was trying totake my daughter away from him cause she thought my duaghter was hers lol- ya had to be there- i still chuckle thinking of it. ) alas- it wont be my daughters field of expertise lol.

i agree it is great if doc doesnt use nurses as babysitter :) thank you for your insight on this. its good to hear from someone who has been on the good side of it. manyblessings.

Specializes in OB, HH, ADMIN, IC, ED, QI.
What about doctor who brings his kids, not toddlers but pre teens, into his consulting rooms and actually has them working (helping) while they are there and he is seeing patients, filing, entering patients test results onto computer records etc, and secretary/nursing staff are expected to supervise them. I have a huge issue with this - surely it is a massive professional misconduct and violation of privacy?

Sorry to go off the original topic but it's sort of related.

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The doctor should confer with his malpractise insurance provider. Any time anyone other than employees in his office who have been duly screened, are present during a physician's examination of a patient, written consent for that person (adult, pre-teen, toddler, or infant) to be there at that time must be given and placed in the chart.

Good heavens!

P.S. Case-by-case consideration isn't going to protect anyone sued, from a previous judgment in court that sets a precedent...........

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