New Grads, A Few Words of Encouragement - page 9

After reading so many threads here on allnurses.com about the hard times many new grads are having at getting jobs, I just wanted to share a few words of encouragement. My feelings go out to all... Read More

  1. Visit  Artistyc1 profile page
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    So, the upshot is, the only good nurses, that are happy in their profession, are LPN'S? I think you are trying too hard to convince people that your are happy that your RN program situation did not work out. If things are so wonderful for LPN's, why are you looking at an ADN program???
    If someone becomes an instructor, "they hate nursing"? How do you figure? With the MSN + education it takes to be a nursing instructor, a person could sure make a lot more money than to become a nurse educator. The reason that too few are taking that route, is because they would have to take such dreadful pay cuts if they leave the clinical settings. Because there are not enough nurse educators out there, some programs cannot take the numbers of students that they were originally approved for. This will have very long term ramifications for the future needs of the public. As a baby boomer myself, I see this as something to worry about. It is too bad that your PHd LPN instructor that you like so much really hates nursing, though, isn't it? I have only met PHD nursing instructors in the university setting, myself. I wonder why she is teaching in an LPN program?
    Most of the nurse instructors that I have known in my very long career have been very sharp- and really made a sincere effort to assist in every way they could to help the students succeed. When they realized that they would be banging their heads against walls over and over with a student, and that everyone else working with that student was, too, and knew that they had no possible future in the profession, they would gently try to assist them in making decisions to consider another career.
    Last edit by sirI on Jun 21, '09
  2. Visit  doesanyoneknowwhy profile page
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    The Rn program is just too expensive for me right now. Remember we are in a recession. I have ecellent credit, and I am not going to do anything to fudge it up.

    Instructor/student ratio here is great. And the instructors do not make as much as they would if they were to work as a nurse.

    If they really loved it, they would be a nurse, there is always others who can teach nursing. All of my instructors have expressed teaching over nursing, and that there is a 5 year burn out rate in nursing.

    There is no perfect way to getting a nursing degree, or the RN. That is crazy. The instructors at the university have already faced pay cuts, no raises, and the university is calling for retired nurses with BSN to VOLUNTEER, a lot of colleges are doing this. All the educators at the university are being asked to work for free at some point and time throughout the upcoming year.
    Last edit by sirI on Jun 21, '09 : Reason: inflammatory/rude response
  3. Visit  I'llFlyAway profile page
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    [font="arial narrow"]bad new grad experience....
    i graduated in december with a bsn. when i started applying for jobs i had several offers. unfortunately i went with the wrong one....i got my license in march and was hired at at one of the major teaching hospitals in south carolina to work on a progressive care unit that was soon to be opened. i felt great about the position and knew it would be a great fit with my 3 background as a tech on a stepdown/telemetry unit. my second day at i was surprised to learn that my unit still had not opened and that i would be orienting in the icu. i looked forward to the challenges and learning but found out quickly that i needed a better foundation in my basic nursing skills to be in the critical care environment.

    after 6 weeks orienting in the icu, the progressive care unit i was hired for still had not opened. i had been through 11 different preceptors and had been switched back and forth from days and nights. i was beginning to think the expectations were too much and never felt like i could keep up. i contacted our educator about my concerns and asked if i could be transferred to a less critical unit. the next day my manager told me that she didn't think i was going to succeed because i was falling behind the expectation guidelines for orientation in the icu. she also had a list of issues that had apparently been presented during my time there but were never brought to my attention. most of the accusations were entirely were untrue (for example, i was accused of being told to take out an arterial line and then taking out an iv line instead, which never happened). i tried to defend myself and explained to my manager i didn't agree with most of the statements but she remained silent. i was also honest about how i agreed that i needed more experience in my med/surg skilss, but she refused to transfer me to another unit. she said that i would probably be terminated and that she "doesn't accept resignation from orientees and would give me a bad recommendation when contacted as a reference". at the end of the meeting she told me not to come in for my next shift so i could think about what i wanted to do (what choice did i have??) . i insisted on meeting with her a few days later and told her i wanted another chance. i had no other option that wouldn't ruin my career. she gave me another chance but said i would be "under the gun" and if i had a single infraction i would be terminated immediately. when i arrived for my next shift i got to the building and had to go back to my car for my badge (thinking i would get fired for forgetting it) and clocked in at 7:04 and was terminated that day for being tardy.

    i have worked so hard for the past four years to become a nurse. i worked for two months and i'm afraid that being terminated has ruined my career as a nurse. i'm at even more of a disadvantage since there are no new grad positions in the carolinas, even in long term care. i'm going to continue to pray for the right job but in the meantime does anyone have a similar experience or advice to share? thank you <3
    Last edit by I'llFlyAway on Jun 24, '09
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  4. Visit  MissLouda profile page
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    I currently live in Hawaii and graduated with my BSN in December 2008 and passed boards in March 2009. I am deeply saddened with the shortages all the new grads have to face. With my student loans kicking in soon, my hopes of becoming successful and productive are not good. Hawaii's new grad programs don't even exist and if someone were to tell you otherwise, I would beg to differ. I even tried to apply outside of the State... got my State of Washington license only to find out they are in bad shape there as well. Now I am trying my luck in California but I heard that is just as bad as Hawaii. I am running out of money and out of ideas... I am beginning to wonder why I chose nursing in the first place. If I knew I would be the new "sandwich" generation where I have all the education and license qualification but not enough experience... I would have chosen to spend my money, or should I say my loan money on a profession I know I would be more accepted into as a new grad.

    I really enjoy reading all of the comments to this thread. It is good to know I am not alone in my quest to find a job.
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  5. Visit  Rianna1 profile page
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    Hey New Grads,
    I am right there with you...I recently received my RN license and have been on the job hunt for about 3 weeks. I am in the Bay Area, CA. Man, it IS tough, but we really have to use our resources. Ask around, have your husbands, friends and family members ask around, network. I made about 75 or so phone calls to LTC facilities b/c I KNEW it was going to be very difficult to get into a hospital right now and I just want to get my feet wet with my new title of RN. Out of the 75 or so calls (yes, it was discouraging at first) 3 said they were hiring so I went to 2 of the 3 and persistently called the directors and left messages. I got an interview for one of them and a potential job offer (pending background). Even if this one doesn't work out, at least I know that persistence does wonders. I learned pretty quickly that sending out massive resumes through certain hospitals wouldn't do much and you really have to get out there. I thought I would have to commute at least an hour away to find something, but it IS possible to find something close to home and I am hopeful that if nothing else, I get to use some skills that we learned in nursing school.
  6. Visit  hope3456 profile page
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    Quote from aaskey
    [font="arial narrow"]bad new grad experience....
    i graduated in december with a bsn. when i started applying for jobs i had several offers. unfortunately i went with the wrong one....i got my license in march and was hired at at one of the major teaching hospitals in south carolina to work on a progressive care unit that was soon to be opened. i felt great about the position and knew it would be a great fit with my 3 background as a tech on a stepdown/telemetry unit. my second day at i was surprised to learn that my unit still had not opened and that i would be orienting in the icu. i looked forward to the challenges and learning but found out quickly that i needed a better foundation in my basic nursing skills to be in the critical care environment.

    after 6 weeks orienting in the icu, the progressive care unit i was hired for still had not opened. i had been through 11 different preceptors and had been switched back and forth from days and nights. i was beginning to think the expectations were too much and never felt like i could keep up. i contacted our educator about my concerns and asked if i could be transferred to a less critical unit. the next day my manager told me that she didn't think i was going to succeed because i was falling behind the expectation guidelines for orientation in the icu. she also had a list of issues that had apparently been presented during my time there but were never brought to my attention. most of the accusations were entirely were untrue (for example, i was accused of being told to take out an arterial line and then taking out an iv line instead, which never happened). i tried to defend myself and explained to my manager i didn't agree with most of the statements but she remained silent. i was also honest about how i agreed that i needed more experience in my med/surg skilss, but she refused to transfer me to another unit. she said that i would probably be terminated and that she "doesn't accept resignation from orientees and would give me a bad recommendation when contacted as a reference". at the end of the meeting she told me not to come in for my next shift so i could think about what i wanted to do (what choice did i have??) . i insisted on meeting with her a few days later and told her i wanted another chance. i had no other option that wouldn't ruin my career. she gave me another chance but said i would be "under the gun" and if i had a single infraction i would be terminated immediately. when i arrived for my next shift i got to the building and had to go back to my car for my badge (thinking i would get fired for forgetting it) and clocked in at 7:04 and was terminated that day for being tardy.

    i have worked so hard for the past four years to become a nurse. i worked for two months and i'm afraid that being terminated has ruined my career as a nurse. i'm at even more of a disadvantage since there are no new grad positions in the carolinas, even in long term care. i'm going to continue to pray for the right job but in the meantime does anyone have a similar experience or advice to share? thank you <3
    you are not the only one this has happened too......i was also 'hazed' by my nm as a new grad working in a ltc. i got on her crappy list after a miscommunication (long story).

    it also happened to a coworker who worked in a icu as new grad - the simply told her she is 'not where she should be.' i think her problem is she has a very outspoken personality and is somewhat hard to get along with - so i don't know if interpersonal issues could have been a factor?
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  7. Visit  wonderwomanchels profile page
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    I was hired as an RN at a LTC facility, then "fired" after 4 months for a ridiculous communication error that caused no patient harm and was my first and final complaint - simply put, i should have seen it coming because the facility was in financial straits and had been very clear about wanting to cut costs....i guess it was cheaper to replace me with an LPN or even a med tech. as a new grad, i was left alone on the unit at night with 50 patients after 2 weeks of side by side "training" with an LPN on the day shift. (you think i'm exaggerating? i couldn't even make this up.) i was usually the only RN in the building and therefore was a new grad (1 month "experience") before i pronounced my first resident dead. it was horrifying, scary, uncomfortable and i was happy to leave, but am still looking for a job to this day.

    kinda at the end of my rope here, so any encouragement is nice.
  8. Visit  wonderwomanchels profile page
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    i just want to share my story with you, because i feel your pain.

    i graduated in may of 2008, and spent the summer working at a camp (a personal dream of mine that i chose to fulfill). unfortunately, when i got home in the fall the job market had gotten horrid, and i was lucky to grab a job at a private nursing home. when hired, i was told i would be able to orient as long as i felt i needed it, and that i would be working 3-11 on the rehab unit. then, i got the phone call...would i be ok working nights? i was like...sure, whatever. i'm accomodating. thennn...would i be ok working on the dementia unit instead? because that's the only place they can put me.
    now, i have nothing but pediatric experience while in school, and absolutely no experience in dementia care whatsoever, and i reminded them of this. they were like oh no problem, we'll train you until you feel comfortable. i started to train on the day shifts with an LPN, who showed me how to care for the TWENTY FIVE residents she dealt with each day. i was floored at how impersonal the care was, because it felt like pill-pushing to me.
    i was even more freaked out when they told me that i was going to be going to nights in two weeks, after just ten shifts of training. "no worries - we're going to have someone with you on nights until you feel comfortable" ...ok, no problem. i had ONE NIGHT with another nurse, who admitted to me that she took a lot of anti-anxiety medications before coming to work because she was always nervous about messing up. she was a total space cadet and knew nothing about nursing beyond charting and crushing up medications.

    i was then left ALONE ON THE UNIT WITH FIFTY PATIENTS each night, five nights a week. i lasted for four months, during which i managed to pronounce 15 people dead (as a new grad? terrifying) and generally was the only RN in the building (with maybe on a good night 3 other LPNs to help me out if i needed it, and a few LNAs for good measure). i had nothing but glowing reviews from my co-workers and immediate supervisor, who was lovely and very supportive.

    shortly, the facility began to express to the employees that the budget was getting tight and started suggesting the people take "unpaid vacations" to help out. i continued to keep my head down and do my job, never called in sick or even showed up late. i picked up any shifts needed and helped out whenever possible.

    i was fired after 4 1/2 months of employment for a minor infraction involving a resident stripping off her clothing (dementia, remember?) and another resident watching her (even though that resident has a short term memory recall of about 2 minutes) and being "very offended". this was my "final" warning and subsequent firing, although i was never afforded the "first" and "second" ones. i was told to write a statement, not allowed to clock in, and sent home with little explanation. after a meeting, i was forced to sign a paper terminating my relationship with the facility, was handed my final paycheck, and was told that my license was being reported. i was disgusted and horrified.

    i found out a few weeks later that i was replaced by a med tech making 10 less per an hour than i was, who is completely unqualified to be caring for the residents on this unit (less so than i, which is saying a lot). it was a completely fiscally fueled decision, and i was victimized in the process. i had to defend my license to the board, which called the complaint "ridiculous" (small victories!) and apologized to me, but i am still out of job with a bad reference on my record. it's been months, i can barely pay my bills, and i'm completely freaked out that i have no future.

    just to let you know there are others who have gone through these injustices. i have hope that one day we'll find our places in the world, because anyone who is called to this profession is meant to do great things in small batches. in the meantime, i'm going to swallow my bitterness and put on a smile. i hope you're able to do the same, and feel better knowing that you have a friend.


    - chelsea
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  9. Visit  UserG profile page
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    Quote from aaskey
    bad new grad experience....
    i graduated in december with a bsn. when i started applying for jobs i had several offers. unfortunately i went with the wrong one....i got my license in march and was hired at at one of the major teaching hospitals in south carolina to work on a progressive care unit that was soon to be opened. i felt great about the position and knew it would be a great fit with my 3 background as a tech on a stepdown/telemetry unit. my second day at i was surprised to learn that my unit still had not opened and that i would be orienting in the icu. i looked forward to the challenges and learning but found out quickly that i needed a better foundation in my basic nursing skills to be in the critical care environment.

    after 6 weeks orienting in the icu, the progressive care unit i was hired for still had not opened. i had been through 11 different preceptors and had been switched back and forth from days and nights. i was beginning to think the expectations were too much and never felt like i could keep up. i contacted our educator about my concerns and asked if i could be transferred to a less critical unit. the next day my manager told me that she didn't think i was going to succeed because i was falling behind the expectation guidelines for orientation in the icu. she also had a list of issues that had apparently been presented during my time there but were never brought to my attention. most of the accusations were entirely were untrue (for example, i was accused of being told to take out an arterial line and then taking out an iv line instead, which never happened). i tried to defend myself and explained to my manager i didn't agree with most of the statements but she remained silent. i was also honest about how i agreed that i needed more experience in my med/surg skilss, but she refused to transfer me to another unit. she said that i would probably be terminated and that she "doesn't accept resignation from orientees and would give me a bad recommendation when contacted as a reference". at the end of the meeting she told me not to come in for my next shift so i could think about what i wanted to do (what choice did i have??) . i insisted on meeting with her a few days later and told her i wanted another chance. i had no other option that wouldn't ruin my career. she gave me another chance but said i would be "under the gun" and if i had a single infraction i would be terminated immediately. when i arrived for my next shift i got to the building and had to go back to my car for my badge (thinking i would get fired for forgetting it) and clocked in at 7:04 and was terminated that day for being tardy.

    i have worked so hard for the past four years to become a nurse. i worked for two months and i'm afraid that being terminated has ruined my career as a nurse. i'm at even more of a disadvantage since there are no new grad positions in the carolinas, even in long term care. i'm going to continue to pray for the right job but in the meantime does anyone have a similar experience or advice to share? thank you <3
    that story is going to give me nightmares. i'm in the same boat (just a few months, inconsistent support from preceptors, chucked for something ultra-small). i feel for you. i really do.
    i'm at two months with applying for every job i'm remotely qualified for and/or new grad program west of the mississippi (and a few east...) and think i'm screwed.
    i've been in the health care field for over a decade now and i'm starting to think this is the end.
    the worst are the people who have jobs who say unhelpful and smug things like "oh, you'll find something" or "you have to be willing to accept something less than ideal." like i haven't applied at ltc, snf, or rehab. i would've enjoyed those jobs, anyway!
    let me know how things turn out for you.
    i hope there's always law school for me...
  10. Visit  Future TX RN profile page
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    I feel for all of you. I truly do. I start the nursing program in August. Luckily, the location I'm from, we have a HUGE nurse shortage. We have 6+ hospitals in a 40 mile radius; 2 schools offering BSN progs and 2 offering ADN programs. There's also over 500K people in this area. We are also an area that hasn't been hit hard by the recession. In fact, businesses, restaurants, hospitals are being built left and right here, with a brand new UC center being opened in Sept.

    Keep your heads up, it's always the darkest before the dawn.
  11. Visit  EmilyLucille523 profile page
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    Quote from Future TX RN
    I feel for all of you. I truly do. I start the nursing program in August. Luckily, the location I'm from, we have a HUGE nurse shortage. We have 6+ hospitals in a 40 mile radius; 2 schools offering BSN progs and 2 offering ADN programs. There's also over 500K people in this area. We are also an area that hasn't been hit hard by the recession. In fact, businesses, restaurants, hospitals are being built left and right here, with a brand new UC center being opened in Sept.

    Keep your heads up, it's always the darkest before the dawn.

    Well, if you don't mind me asking...WHERE DO YOU LIVE??!!?? Are you sure the shortages are not just in experienced nurses? Have these facilities posted that they hire new grads?
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    Quote from EmilyLucille523
    Well, if you don't mind me asking...WHERE DO YOU LIVE??!!?? Are you sure the shortages are not just in experienced nurses? Have these facilities posted that they hire new grads?
    Yes, please tell everyone where you are? Because last time I heard something like that, it was Casper, WY and they are now flooded with applicants and there isn't much left there.
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    Quote from UserG
    Yes, please tell everyone where you are? Because last time I heard something like that, it was Casper, WY and they are now flooded with applicants and there isn't much left there.


    i've got my bags packed...ready to go wherever.


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