New Grad Pay!! - page 7

I know the 'Nursing Pay' discussion has had the CRAP beat out of it, but this thread is directed to those NEW GRADS that have just accepted their FIRST nursing job with ONLY SCHOOL-RELATED EXPERIENCE... Read More

  1. by   AMV
    Darci,

    We are thinking about moving near Omaha (it is where I grew up) - my parent's live in Fremont and the cost of living is great there (compared to where we live now!) Is this anywhere near the hospital you have mentioned?
  2. by   palesarah
    Originally posted by EmeraldNYL
    ISN'T THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?? Why are new grads making more money than the nurses that have been there 5, 10, 15 years?! If the hospital is going to increase salaries for new grads, they should increase salaries for everyone. That's no way to retain experienced nurses..... Please tell me that most hospitals aren't like this!
    I don't know about most hospitals, but my hospital isn't like that. The issue came up during one of my orientation classes and the educator made some sort of statement about valuing all nurses but also rewarding loyalty

    As a new grad, I would be extremely uncomfortable making more than the experienced nurses mentoring me.
  3. by   fourbirds4me
    Here in SW Oklahoma new grads (ADN/BSN) are starting 16.94... 2.50 diff for nights, 2.50 for weekends
  4. by   VickyRN
    are there any msn new grads out there that can talk about their starting salaries?
    although i am not yet an msn grad (someday i hope to be ), i do work in an area that requires msn in most cases (adn faculty). my starting salary is $10,000/year less than what i was making as a staff nurse . in fact, most of our new graduates start out making more than we do! it seems the higher up you go in nursing degree-wise, the less money you make.
  5. by   VickyRN
    Hmmm. I have mixed feelings about this whole issue, but I did want to warn students and new grads to keep their salaries to themselves. People are VERY serious about the $$$ they make and it can cause lotsa problems to share salary info freely.
    Very sage advice. So often, new grads are being paid $$ more/hour than faithful coworkers who have been at the facility for YEARS. So it's not JUST wage compression anymore, as bad as that is. It's wage reversal (the less years, the MORE salary you make). Is nursing management dysfunctional or what? When the more experienced nurses find out (and they always DO find out), it causes such bitterness and resentment. They feel betrayed and leave the facility. This is very commonplace and contributes to the lack of loyalty to employers and "gypsy culture" that nursing has become. It is now the norm for most nurses NOT to stay at any one institution more than a few years. You make MORE salary if you move around a lot.
  6. by   MoJoeRN,C
    Keeping salaries confidential is a ploy that management and human resourses use to hide the fact of how they're screwing over certain employees. If salarly was based on job performance, competence, experience and education; and personalities and/or politics left out, salaries could be competive and more in the open
  7. by   geekgolightly
    Originally posted by MoJoeRN,C
    Keeping salaries confidential is a ploy that management and human resourses use to hide the fact of how they're screwing over certain employees. If salarly was based on job performance, competence, experience and education; and personalities and/or politics left out, salaries could be competive and more in the open
    All new grads get paid the same rate and raises are then granted by experience and by merit. Starting salaries, at least in my hospital, are out in the open.
  8. by   Ghetto Supersta
    Originally posted by geekgolightly
    If you are at Ben taub on the 4th floor, you might run into me this summer, and we won't even know each other! I am doing my clinical rotation there and we are rounding through the fourth floor. I have clinicals left in MICU, SICU and OR. I finished up with NeuroICU, Dialysis, and 4B.

    I loved the NeuroICU over at the taub, but I don't know a thing about the other units.

    I happen to love Memorial Hermann in Med Center. I think they are fabulous. They seem to really care about retention and the staff patient ratios are within reasonable limits. Neuoscience is a tough floor but the highest patient load we are given is 6. They try to keep it at five. I work as a student nurse there currently. Not to sound like a commercial, but i think that Hermann is an invigorating and wonderful place for nurses. I know there are some bad staff and management, but I like to look for the people who are knowlegable and helpful and stick with them. The CNA's leave something to be desired and poor performance from them is tolerated on my floor. that is the worst thing I can say about working there.

    Yeah, I hear nothing but good things about NICU at taub. Everyone that works there says they love it; that says a whole lot about the unit. The most I get about SICU is a shrug, and MICU sounds like slave labor!

    as for the assistants, we've got a saying at taub: "The rn's are the real assistants."

    I was thinking of working ICU over at herman in the med center. which unit do you suggest? I don't want anything intense or with high acuity. maybe long-term care kinda stuff, where i only have to take care of two pts. i definitely do not want to work on the floor and handle 6 or 7 pts! i was looking at memorial because it seemed like a nice place to work, and i just want to experience something different.
  9. by   Ghetto Supersta
    Originally posted by mattsmom81
    Another RN at my hospital who had been working there for 7 years found out new grads were being hired on at $6 hr more than she made. She didn't retaliate towards the new hires, but did go right to the CEO (who said he had an 'open door policy')and GOT her raise, but made an enemy of the manager by jumping over her head. She was let go shortly after and I'm sure it was no coincidence.

    Of course its not right, these management policies. It is one of the reasons I support unions. I work in quite a dysfunctional area I know, and also hope it's not as bad everywhere else. I've gotten quite cynical due to what I see go on here, I'm afraid.

    I also feel part of this tactic involves the wish to run off the older staff, such as when a new manager comes in, she wants to 'start over' with 'her' people. This particular manager also brought over a whole bunch of nurses from her last job...and she favors them over the 'old' staff too. I've seen this before. <sigh> And admin wonders why we have such high turnaround!!! No big surprise here...
    This is what happens when you keep your salary hush-hush. Salary should be kept in the open, and if you find out you're behind, tell management. if they don't fix it, leave! Nurses shouldn't have to take this. People need us, not the other way around. It's time we started standing up for ourselves and getting the respect we deserve.
  10. by   geekgolightly
    Originally posted by Ghetto Supersta
    Yeah, I hear nothing but good things about NICU at taub. Everyone that works there says they love it; that says a whole lot about the unit. The most I get about SICU is a shrug, and MICU sounds like slave labor!

    as for the assistants, we've got a saying at taub: "The rn's are the real assistants."

    I was thinking of working ICU over at herman in the med center. which unit do you suggest? I don't want anything intense or with high acuity. maybe long-term care kinda stuff, where i only have to take care of two pts. i definitely do not want to work on the floor and handle 6 or 7 pts! i was looking at memorial because it seemed like a nice place to work, and i just want to experience something different.
    all of the ICU's are high accuity over at Hermann. We have a burn unit that is supposed to be pretty top of the line with intensive two ot one or three to one patient care with a lower morbidity than other units.

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