New grad just got fired - page 6

I am still searching for the strength to move on. I was called in the office yesterday and given the pink slip. I am a new grad, just graduated in May and passed nclex a couple months later and got... Read More

  1. by   ipdegirl
    If you have no idea that you were about to be fired, something is wrong with the management. You should always know how you stand. Same kind of thing happened to me. Pulled into the office with NO IDEA how 'badly' my NM thought I was performing. Don't blame yourself! In my case, and I'm guessing in yours, you weren't given the right support (not enough education during orientation, not enough HONEST feedback, co-workers who didn't let on to what was going on or weren't honest enough to tell you what was going on), probably weren't told how 'terrible' your mistakes were until it was too late, if at all and maybe just didn't fit in with the rest of the crew. I was SO ANGRY after it happened to me! Right after I was asked to resign I marched myself right down to the Nurse Recruiter's office and scheduled an interview with another department. The interview, 2 weeks later (went to the beach, reflected and tried not to stress during that period of time) went well. I was completely honest with the NM and told her how I worked my butt off but was still railroaded. Got the job and fit in MUCH better, had a very honest relationship with my NM and was very relieved to be working there and not on the other unit. Keep your chin up and interview for another position ASAP!! Get right back in there!! Good Luck!
  2. by   bmh-lpn
    I completely understand. I was fired back in my earlier days as a new grad for saying the word "ain't" in front of a patient. She also hated my accent. The Dr. had an accent herself from the State she was from! Did not know I had one? Guess I do ;'D Most people who know me, including my instructors at the college couldn't believe it! I was fired on my 89th day of employment! If I was able to work 90 days I could have claimed UE! Well, later I found out from the Receptionist that I was only hired to get her office set up and organized so that the Dr's Sister-n-law (not a nurse) would be able to step right in and not be bothered with the new move. (The Dr. was new and just moved in from out of state). I was hired as a permanent employee. Never was I told or aware it was a temp. job. The receptionist lost her job after the Dr was able to get some great deals on landscaping her newly built mansion from her and hired another family member to take her place. ( Receptionist Husband owned a landscaping biz) Anyway... looking back now I am glad it happened and went on to much better jobs with much better pay where I was much better appreciated!
    Things happen sometimes for a reason as Mom always said.
  3. by   silverdollar
    hey, sounds to me the nurse educator and preceptor was not doing there job. the educators job is to help you learn what you need to know to take care of your pt's. am i right? this being your first njob out of school you probably felt a bit timid and intemidated. afraid to speak up much. all the books and learning you do in school really does not pepare someone for the floor of nursing, can't compare to hands on . :wink2: :wink2: :wink2:
  4. by   lpn2a
    I am so sorry this happened to you. Take time to get past it emotionally. Realize you are smart enough to get through the RN program and you remembered enough of what you were taught in school to pass your boards. You met the NCLEX criteria to be an RN. A job well done. So you can't remember every detail about each patient. Big deal. That is what charts are for. How many times have we had to remind the MD about which pt. he is about to see or talk to. We don't know what is happenening behind the scenes at your previous place of employment. There could be politics involved that have nothing to do with you. I am one of those that believe that things like this happen for a reason and that there is a better job for you. At some point you will be able to look back at this and have a better understanding of the situation. There may be someone in you future that will need you support after going through a similar situation. Keep you head up. I don't know if you are a Christian, but I am and I will lift you up to my Heavenly Father. I pray that he will give you wisdom and guide you through and open door to the perfect job for you.
  5. by   heartbeat2
    I hate that things went the way they did for you. You have the right to know what made them come to their decision. I was almost in your shoes when I began my nursing career. The times I was "counseled" was during general conversations with everyone around and I didn't have a clue I was being counseled,..just like you..."how's everything going" kind of questions.
    This had happened 3 times and I had no idea it was being written up. I was called to the office of the director and was told " lacking general skills", and vague things like this. Boy was I hot under the collar, but I was able to maintain my composure. It was just me and the director. I asked what "general" skills, when was I spoken to and when was this written up, that I was not aware I was being reprimanded. I was told that the charge nurse and the supervisor wasn't available at this time. I asked when could we get together and set up a meeting, that THIS was my first clue that there was a problem!!!! The next day, one of my co-workers came to me and asked if she could help. We went into a room and she talked to me very open and honestly. NOT ONE PERSON had ever said anything to me at all, come to find out...if anyone other than my charge nurse had said anything to me, I could have gotten them in trouble as they were not my superiors.

    My co-worker said she could tell a very big change ( that was needed) on the very next day. It was simple things but when added together, I wasn't as productive as I should've been. This was 25 years ago and I was scared to death. We didn't have mentors or anything like they do today. I graduated nursing school and went to work. Simple as that.

    Most of all, hang in there. It's depressing to hear your story, but it will get better. Be one to ask ?'s and seek out "what can I do better" from those above you (sounds like that's what you were doing though). We do eat our young many times, and there are times when it's not noticed.

    I will be forever grateful to my co-worker that spoke to me, and it's made me speak up when others would repeat what was done to me. It's always been positively received, when it's been constructive and not just bashing and the person is asking for guidance.

    Some people just can't confront even on the simplest things and when being asked for guidance. Don't give up.
  6. by   melpn
    Sorry this happened to you. Keep good notes on your pts., using a form is best w/ spaces to fill in, then you are less likely to forget. If the facility doesn't provide one, make one up on the computer. Remember, it's okay to smile and say "let me consult my sheet". After being questioned so many times, I'm sure you looked a bit flustered and that can translate into " I can't keep up" or something similar in her mind. You'll be fine. You're new. You will find your rhythm and become a smoother, more efficient worker. Give yourself a chance even if they didn't. Good luck to you in your career!
  7. by   tkane
    I also graduated in May, altho my experience has been positive it reminds of the reputation nurses have about eating their young. Hang in there & try not to let this influence you to much. Good luck.
  8. by   grandma pat
    I am sorry that your first job as a nurse had to end this way. I have been an RN since 1991 and still have to refer to my charts, the computer, or other staff for information on how to deal with my patients at times. I firmly beleive that nothing happens without a reason, so this job probably was not meant for you. I agree that you should ask for a meeting with the head nurse/educator or preceptor to find out what they were not pleased with to allow yourself insight on how you need to grow from this situation. Don't take it personally because it may be just good old hospital pollitics. Once you have regrouped and start putting in applications focus on you strengths and remember that book knowledge is great but part of real nursing is to learn to see what you learned in your patients. Unfortunately this takes time and patience is not always our strong suit. Try to get into a preceptor program that allows you more time to build your skills and self confidence. A blow like this can affect the way you react in the future, so try not to hold onto it to long. I wish you the best of luck and hope that you can hang in there until you find you nitch in nursing.
  9. by   vetnrse
    Believe me, its not you thats the problem. Its some of these nurse supervisors that dont have the guts enough or the knowhow to communicate honestly. So they take a small item and exagerate it out of proportion until it can and will be used against you for termination reasons. My guess is that this one probably wanted a more experienced nurse as she may have seen that it takes some time to orient a new grad with her floor nurses used as precepters. And she just couldnt be honest about it.
    I was fired once with no notice, warnings or anything on a pumped up charge, that believe me , nurses are guilty of everyday, every shift; an MD order starting late( with no adverse effect to the pt) . I had just worked a 12 hr OT shift that the NM had begged me to work because of short staffed( surprise). then calls me in to terminate me. The real reason I got fired though, is, Im not a brown noser, and boy did he love them. Im a good nurse and have the references from other facilities to prove it, so dont take it personal dear,some of these people have alot of problems and take it out on the staff especially the ones that dont kiss up to them.Its a CYA backstabbing business and you have to be careful out there. Good luck, you'll do fine.
  10. by   workinmom7
    [I am sure you feel terrible right now. I do know how you feel, but truly, if that is how you were treated, you don't want to work there anyway. Nursing comes with way too many stresses to have some over zelus know it all breathing down your neck. You aren't going to feel like you know much of anything for a few years, and that's okay. And guess what? We never know everything. Nurses that think they do are the most dangerous ones! I bet by the time you get this you will have already gotten another job. Let me know and hold your head up high. You were honest and didn't pretend or lie. Good for you.
  11. by   twotrees2
    Quote from jerimane
    Dear Nurse,
    I am so sorry this happened to you-I agree with the other one's that you need to be very kind to yourself-ask for a meeting to help you make choices for your next job-it does sound like that it was a bad fit-look for a hospital that has at least 12 week orientation program and a support system for new grads-usually larger hospitals-when you interview for next job, honestly tell what happend and that you learned from it. As one nurse said, if you live in an employment at will state, like mine-it is more difficult-if this is the case the employer just tells the next employer that you worked there from x day to y date-. Yes, you are expected to know about your patients--however you can always look information up in a book or the chart etc. I think the person that suggested that how you present yourself might be the problem-perhaps get some short term counseling, if you can-you will both learn from this and you will get a better job, that is a better fit-and that you will be happy and fulfilled in. go somewhere that is relaxing to you-the beach or the mountains or a lake and write down your feelings and what went wrong-then armed with this, ask for the meeting to get feedback-if you are near your school of nursing, maybe go to one of your trusted faculty and ask for assistance, both in job search and in finding out the dynamics of what caused this. You may find out that this is known as a place that eats their young!! Good luck and you will find the right place to work, and later you will respond to another nurse in a forum like this and help that person from what you learned.

    never trust any employer to follow that rule and there is NO way to prove that they did otherwise ( ie theyll say they heard rumours from elswhere but in fact it was the employer) - so always be honest with what your side of the story is. most employers know ther is 2 sides to that story and a good one will choose you if you were wronged.
  12. by   maximaxi
    Quote from rn2day
    I am still searching for the strength to move on. I was called in the office yesterday and given the pink slip. I am a new grad, just graduated in May and passed nclex a couple months later and got my first job on a med surg floor.. I started work the end of July and I was on orientation and had three preceptors. The educator dilligently came around and ask me questions about my pts. Basically this lady just hammered on things I told her I needed to look up. She nailed me on things I failed to answered correctly plus exaggerated . And guess what she had it all documented, correct me if i am wrong, am i suppose to answer all her questions correctly? DO all nurses truly and honestly know qthing about their pts? it was the completion of my orientation and they pulled me and said byebye!! Besides, My preceptor just told me how great I was doing the other day.
    First that sucks about your situation.Things happen for a reason. Their loss not yours. Later you will look back & be glad that you are not there anymore.How supportive,informative would they have been down the road? I would ask the manager and the educator to please sit down with me and talk about exactly what the problem was. And be like this way I can use this information for any future jobs/orientation I will have. If you don't know what you did "wrong" or what you were deficient in how can you improve yourself? Hi im also in orientation and was wondering what type of questions was the educator asking you. Yesterday was one of first days I actually got the nerve to ask my preceptor how I did yesterday after my first 12 hr shift with her.I asked her as we getting our stuff and getting ready to get on the elevator. I was glad I did & I noticed that she seemed glad I was actually asking.She all of a sudden started letting her guard down and actually was telling me how I could improve. She was telling me how she has noticed that I have progressed from the first day &what she thinks the big thing for me is organizing/prioritization. I got the nerve after reading several posts on this site. Im glad I found ALLNURSES.com.I was once told by an elementry school teacher that there was no such thing as stupid questions.He said the stupid thing is not to ask. You get alot of advice from people with various levels of experience.You can look stuff up & if you can't find it start a net thread. Huh.. What a concept I love it. I also have told alot of my classmates about it.
  13. by   twotrees2
    Quote from rn2day
    I am still searching for the strength to move on. I was called in the office yesterday and given the pink slip. I am a new grad, just graduated in May and passed nclex a couple months later and got my first job on a med surg floor.. I started work the end of July and I was on orientation and had three preceptors. The educator dilligently came around and ask me questions about my pts. Basically this lady just hammered on things I told her I needed to look up. She nailed me on things I failed to answered correctly plus exaggerated . And guess what she had it all documented, correct me if i am wrong, am i suppose to answer all her questions correctly? DO all nurses truly and honestly know qthing about their pts? it was the completion of my orientation and they pulled me and said byebye!! Besides, My preceptor just told me how great I was doing the other day.
    it so breaks my heart - way back when i first became a intern and then new nurse i was treated by the hospital so well and the preceptors - yes asked but also set me down and taught me when i didnt know. such a shame nursing has come to this for our new grads. i do try to help the new grads as much as i can but they put such unrealistic expectations on even the oldies that i have no time to even help the new grads most of the time. hell - tonight was the worst night of my life- new admit and i did not even get to do a skin assessment and initial check as i was to busy chasing psych patients ( when i am supposed to run a dementia unit) out doors and keep em from falling all over and getting hurt. its nuts. just plain nuts.

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