needleless needles

emily_mom · Dec 5, 2002

I didn't think those were new...they are cool though!

Kristy

night owl · Dec 5, 2002

They probably aren't new and have been out there for about 5 years or so. You see I work for the government and they are usually the last ones to get anything new except for that d@mn barcode medication system which everyone hates...

Nurse Ratched, RN · Dec 6, 2002

We just got a similar system - I think they're called Vanish Point syringes and there's a button on the end that you push that retracts the needle.

Now the angiocaths at my old hospital with the spring button in the side to retract - now those were nice.... BD brand I think.

boggle, ASN, RN · Dec 6, 2002

How do the new syringes feel to handle? Are they cumbersome or heavy? Any trouble reading the markings on the barrel?

I have used a type of syringe that has a sheath over the barrel that you are supposed to slide down over the needle after injection. It's hard to read the callibrations on the barrel with that brand. Most of the nurses I work with don't bother sliding down the sheath anyway, just dump the whole syringe in the sharp's container.

We sure could use an improved "don't stick yourself" system here!

Nursula · Dec 6, 2002

We use these Vanish Point syringes where I work. For me, they are easy to read and not cumbersome at all. However, I have not used any other type of syringe, so have nothing to compare to. I have heard other nurses say that it is more difficult to get the bubbles out of these syringes, but I have not had a problem with bubbles.

night owl · Dec 6, 2002

Vanish Point syringes! Those are the ones we had the inservce on. We are phasing out the syringes with the sheath. It is difficult to read the dosage with the sheath in the way and it always seems that my residents have 27 or 28 units of NPH which is where it gets difficult to read. The new syringes didn't seem cumbersome at all to me and didn't look like there would be a problem reading the callibrations. The bubbles? I can't help you there because I haven't actually used them yet, but they seem to be an excellent system for safety against needlesticks...You can't get stuck because there's no needle after you use it, it's retracted back up into the barrel. If it were up to me, I wouldn't let my staff use anything else!

CashewLPN, LPN · Dec 6, 2002

hmm... I remember the push button angios... personally, I hated those-- they always never seemed to retract, and caused me to use a funny angle to get it to go into the vein...

what killed me was the inservice on the needles--

me-- What if the needle doesnt retract when I push the button(me holding the angio in my hand, pushing the button several times w/ no success)

Instructor-- oh, just withdraw the needle, like you would with a non safety system, and push the needle against something hard to cause it to retract..

(followed with a several heartbeats longer than necessary wait for the needle to retract)

hmmph...

personally, I like the things that I have the most control over.... slides, clips and the like, where I'm directing the forces neccessary make me feel better about what I have to do...

has anyone seen those new anti stick yourself devices on the fragmin 2500u and 5000u devices?

If you're not careful, you can send one across the room... (when you let go of the plunger when withdrawing, the whole device covers the top of the needle... aided by a spring, this thing reminds me of the 'pen rockets' we used to make in junior high...

have fun!

Dont get stuck

--Barbara

emily_mom · Dec 6, 2002

I have problems getting the bubbles out with the Vanish Point. Don't know why, but those little suckers just won't come out.

NurseLKY · Dec 6, 2002

We just started using the Vanish Point Insuilin Syringes. Nobody likes them you have to retract the needle while it is still in the arm of the patient, so they get the full dose. It is hard reading small doses because of the bubble and that little orange thing in the top. Then sometimes the patient freaks out beacuse you pull out the needle and there is no needle, they think you left it in their arm. It is hard to use one hand to push the plunger all the way in to make the needle retract.

This is just what I think.

panda_181 · Dec 6, 2002

We use the needleless system at our hospital. The nurses who are used to the old system fin dit harder, as the needles are longer....but I learned how to start IVs with these, so I guess I don't know any better. But we also use the needleless system when doing flushes, with IVs and all that jazz...it's really nice if you ask me.

Amanda :)

Pfiesty · Mar 15, 2009

My absolute favorite, by far, hands down, no close second, = Vanish Point!

Just teach patients, "The needle retracts, just like a ball point pen!" They understand.

The retraction is so quick, it is much more comfortable for patients. And since the nurse has no time to move the needle in the muscle while retracting, and the needle comes out the exact same route it went in, it causes much less tenderness after the fact.

Vanish Point is awesome. AND the safest.