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- by kukukajoo Jan 23, '08Saw this mentioned on another thread a couple days ago and looked it up as I had never heard of them. Evidently it is for ppl with watery stools and can help avoid skin breakdown, etc.
The hospital I do clinicals at does not use them. I have had several pts with CDiff that could have benefitted from having this in place!!
We have to do an inservice teaching so I have chosed this topic and am in the proces of contacting manufacturers of the various forms of these now for some guidance, further information.
Has anyone had any successes with this or are they still really hard to use? Can you share your experiences regarding them please? I have seen the litereature and they look great but if they are so darned good then why are they not so widely used? Is one brand/style superior to the others?
Thanks everyone- I love having so much knowledge to tap right at my fingertips!!
- Jan 23, '08 by RN1989If you have the right brand and know how to use it - they are wonderful. I cannot remember the brand right now but there is one that uses a soft, pliable bag. You put the glue around the anus and then the soft bag is put on. The bag made out of the soft latex glove material is the best. When put on correctly it can stay on throughout a lot of turning and moving in bed.
There are other brands that have "plastic" bags that do not stay on for anything. They are basically colostomy bags for the butt and come off the first time you turn the pt.
The trick to getting the bags to stay is to allow enough time for cleaning the peri-area and letting the glue sit. You really need to have help to spread the cheeks, clean well and pat dry. Then sit for a few minutes to ensure dryness. After that the glue is applied. You have to give the glue time to dry to a tacky finish. Then you put on the bag. The biggest problems I have seen nurses have is not allowing enough time for the drying. They want to get in and out. It really takes a good 20 minutes or so to do this whole thing to ensure a proper seal. One little leak and it makes a bigger mess and starts coming off.
If you do it right, these things are fabulous. And you quit having poop in the decub so you don't have to keep changing the dressing!
Do an online search for "fecal incontinence". You will likely get a few hits from companies that sell the products. You can print off info and pics for your presentation.
- Jan 23, '08 by nrsang97check out flexi seal. They have a system ment for watery stool. Down side is it sits inside rectum and is inflated, and is also $900 per opened package. Works well with lots of turning. We also have the fecal pouch the previous poster mentioned. Works well also.
The flexi seal must be use for watery stool only. Sometimes pts go around the device and it needs to be inflated some more.
- Jan 23, '08 by FNimuaeMaeAt one of my jobs they have one called flexiseal... which are awesome for people with liquid stool. They are inserted rectally, have a water cuff you don't need to periodically release pressure from and can stay in for 29 days if I remember correctly. They do leak a little but anything is better than huge puddles of constant stool. They are pricey but we loved them when we got them.
- Jan 23, '08 by queenjeanWhat I don't like about the flexiseal is that the tube is sosoft that if it isn't positioned just right, it kinks off. Or if the pt moves a little bit, it can flatten or kink it so the stool backs up and leaks. It would work better if the drain tube were firmer, maybe somewhere inbetween where it is now and a foley.
- Jan 23, '08 by RN1989I have not checked into fecal incontinence systems in a while. Have they managed to get around problems of pressure and tissue necrosis with the internal fecal tubes? The last time I worked with one years ago we had policies on how long they could stay in, need for inflating/deflating balloon to relieve pressure, etc. due to side effects of the tube.
- Jan 23, '08 by emmycRNDon't remember the brand name, but my facility uses them. They are absolutely wonderful. The ones we use stay in place really well, but the best part is the bags are disposable so no handling poo at all with one of these in place. They are extremely helpful for the large, critically ill individual, with frequent loose BM's. Saves your back and their butt!
- Jan 23, '08 by lorilou22RNQuote from queenjeanWe use flexiseals all the time at my facility. They are wonderful if used properly. Yes you will get some leakage, yet you are supposed to irrigate them at least every shift. I irrigate a bit more frequently, just to prevent leakage. Addl, yes you do have to ensure that the tube is unkinked with each turn, easy with sedated/vented patients more difficult with patients that wiggle.What I don't like about the flexiseal is that the tube is sosoft that if it isn't positioned just right, it kinks off. Or if the pt moves a little bit, it can flatten or kink it so the stool backs up and leaks. It would work better if the drain tube were firmer, maybe somewhere inbetween where it is now and a foley.
- Jan 23, '08 by oMerMeroThe flexiseal is great for loose/watery stool. The company says you don't have to worry about inflating and deflating the cuff, that it will not cause too much pressure inside. The patient needs to have decent rectal tone for it to stay in. They are expensive, but worth it for sick patients with constant watery stool.