Failed pre-employment drug screen - page 11
I am so freaked out. I was hired, conditionally, for a job I really want. Today I found out that I failed the drug screen because it showed Darvocet. I have prescriptions for Percocet because I... Read More
2Dec 10, '11 by PsychNurseWannaBe, BSN, RNThere is no way really to draw an end to this. Some feel it is ok and some feel it isn't. It happens. I am not going to fault a person, it is not my place. We are ALL adults here and if you are going to do it, just be prepared for any possible consequences.
Now.... I found some crack and need to get my needle. God I totally can't even fake that. I would need to look up crack to know do you use a needle, or is this smoked? Oh well... defeats the purpose of what was supposed to be a sarcastic yet well placed witty joke.Last edit by PsychNurseWannaBe on Dec 10, '11 : Reason: typo
4Dec 10, '11 by HorseshoeQuote from leslie :-dyou...law...breaker!i totally agree, horseshoe.
that's what makes ea and every one of us unique as humans and nurses.
that said, if you're being (drug) tested for a position, it really would be unwise to take anything that's not prescribed to you.
that's the professional in me talking.
but in acute and urgent situations (which means infrequently), then call me a law-breaker...i'm ok with that.
if i totally feel that i have something that will help my loved one in need, my instincts to help, are stronger than my will to be law abiding.
i confess that once, at 3:00 am or so, i gave my shrieking, screaming, mildly febrile infant who was pulling on her ears a few drops of her toddler sister's prescription ear numbing medicine. at 8:00 i had her at her doctor's office for a check up. but yeah, i (gasp) was a law breaker, too.
4Dec 10, '11 by PintheDThere is a clear division here in what is perceived as right versus wrong. Maybe this obscure incident mirrors the big picture in nursing.
Some nurses love love the black and white the role of "the nurse" dictates. Policy and Procedure nurses are the expectation. Those P&P's are in place so we don't have to think for ourselves. Not bashing their necessity. However, not all nurses are cut from the same cloth. Some of us can see a bigger picture and see outside of the box that has been dictated to us.
Let's leave the P&P nurses to do their jobs comfortably and honorably within the dictate of the health system they work. Those that want something more can forge ahead. Let's use our experience to be change agents.
5Quote from checker1981really???so your line is that you won't take street drugs, that's great! other people would take street drugs, they would not understand your philosophy, much like you don't understand my position not to take other people's prescriptions. i don't know why that is so difficult to get across. i realize that people may be posting from other countries (canada, uk etc) on this thread and this may be a cultural thing and i don't know where any of you live, but i live in the us. i have never lived more than a few minutes in an ambulance away from an emergency room. if i were in so much pain (true 10 excruciating pain) that i needed narcotics i would go to the emergency room instead of asking my mother for percocet (which would take 30 minutes to kick in anyway) and the ed will give me pain meds, then send me home with my own prescription if so needed. [font="century gothic"]pain meds are easy to get in the us if you so desire and pain is not a bad thing either in my opinion. pain does get you to a doctor to figure out what is going on, rather then just cover it up with percocets.
also, what would happen to you if you were randomly drug tested and you did not have a prescription? i have known people to be fired for testing positive for narcotics without a valid rx. at my prior job they tested 5-10 of the 180 employees randomly monthly. why put yourself in that situation? i don't know any of you and i don't care what you do. i don't understand why it so important that everyone does the same things as you, like taking drugs without a prescription. it is so ridiculous that people keep saying, "are you for real?". read through the last few pages and it seems like a lot of people have my same opinion and a lot of people are opposites. diversity is a great thing and i don't think we should all unify around taking other people's prescription drugs illegally as nurses. i have feel like this is the bizarro world following this thread.
have you ever needed something for pain?
how long do you think it takes to get acknowledged, registered, seen, meds ordered, arrive from pharmacy/pyxis, and then administered in the ed?
oy... the ed is the last place to go for pain meds....but, unfortunately after hours, or if the minor emergency place is closed, it's all there is.... if you ask for pain meds in an ed- you are automatically a drug seeker.... doesn't matter if someone else is carrying your arm in a plastic bag w/ice...
1Dec 10, '11 by HorseshoeQuote from xtxrnOk, now I've got to clean off my computer screen.Really???
Have you ever needed something for pain?
How long do you think it takes to get ACKNOWLEDGED, registered, seen, meds ordered, arrive from pharmacy/Pyxis, and then administered in the ED?
OY... the ED is the LAST place to go for pain meds....but, unfortunately after hours, or if the minor emergency place is closed, it's all there is.... If you ask for pain meds in an ED- you are automatically a drug seeker.... doesn't matter if someone else is carrying your arm in a plastic bag w/ice...
7Dec 10, '11 by leslie :-DQuote from xtxrnnevermind being considered a drug seeker.If you ask for pain meds in an ED- you are automatically a drug seeker.... doesn't matter if someone else is carrying your arm in a plastic bag w/ice...
this dude would be considered 'armed' and dangerous.
(save it - i'll do it to myself.)
2Dec 10, '11 by Pixie.RN, BSN, RN, EMT-P Senior ModeratorQuote from xtxrnSome of us in the ED are a little more wise and kind than that. Are we sometimes cynical and jaded after being burned by liars? Certainly. Regardless, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt the first time, and sometimes the second and third. YMMV.If you ask for pain meds in an ED- you are automatically a drug seeker.... doesn't matter if someone else is carrying your arm in a plastic bag w/ice...
0Quote from LunahRNThat's probably true.... I avoid the ED for anything r/t pain at all costs. Even without a history of pain complaints, there is a large ED here that is (or at least was when I still got stuck going there) cruel. Torn meniscus..... not even Toradol. Normally I got ditched via EMS d/t seizures (documented via video x 5 days) and dysautonomia (documented PVCs and AMS d/t hypotension) - and I still got treated like I was a drug seeker- never asked for anything - heck, I didn't remember getting there- LOL.Some of us in the ED are a little more wise and kind than that. Are we sometimes cynical and jaded after being burned by liars? Certainly. Regardless, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt the first time, and sometimes the second and third. YMMV.
I won't go to that place now that my "primary specialists" go to another hospital- where they are kind. (then I haven't said "I hurt"- aside from the PEs). The "dump" had Press-Ganey scores in the 60s- and POSTED them- ... guess the genius' started at whoever thought that was a good plan.
YMMV?? Sorry- got me on that one