Eight or Twelve Hour Shifts - page 4

If you are a nurse (RN/LPN/NA) currently employed in an acute care environment, please participate by selecting one answer that describes you best: I prefer 8 hour shifts and I have no nursing... Read More

  1. by   outcomesfirst
    Quote from elizabeth321
    so when do we get the results?

    Liz
    Liz,
    I have a theory revolving around this poll and hope to produce a paper for publication (will seek additional input here and from the webmaster during the writing phase). Immediate, real time results for basic demographics should be visible to you at the top of the screen after you have voted. You are only able to vote once (some possible errors here). I will do some additional analysis of the data after greater numbers are achieved. (One interesting thing I have observed so far is the shift in opininion over time/votes). Initially I thought this would be easy to achieve. Unfortuanately, not everyone who views the poll votes. I realize some individuals check back periodically to check the responses and this does drive some of the view stats. allnurses.com records 180,000 members. A reasonable sample of 10% = 18,000 votes - probably not realistic - as the poll has been up almost a month and currently have 223 votes. I promise to keep the board current, but it will be a while. I will make my thoughts available to the viewers. Why do you think not everyone votes? Or, does everyone vote who are regular users of allnurses? Or, are some viewers unfamilar with the feature? Actually, I have tons of questions - but will keep it short. Thank you for your support!
    Last edit by outcomesfirst on Dec 30, '06
  2. by   ChristineN
    I'm a nursing student and NA (2 months experience)and my facility does 4,8, 12, and 16 hour shifts. So far, I've worked the first three (I will not do 16) and liked the 12, although I've mainly done 8's that'll be changing.
  3. by   elizabeth321
    16 hours is not A shift

    liz
  4. by   ChristineN
    Quote from elizabeth321
    16 hours is not A shift

    liz
    I suppose it's technically a double, but it's not OT, staff schedule themselves or ask to work 16 in a row
  5. by   elizabeth321
    why would anyone book themselves to do that? and how can it not be overtime.....are there not labour laws?

    Liz
  6. by   GardenDove
    I knew one charge nurse where I once worked who was the weekend charge and worked 2 16 hr shifts a week. The union contract allowed this if it was the nurse's preference. She liked it because it gave her a lot of days off. She worked one nightshift a week to bring her FTE up to 1.0, and also to do hands on pt care.
  7. by   PBAJS
    Quote from elizabeth321
    and how can it not be overtime.....are there not labour laws?

    Liz
    There are labor laws.

    The U.S. Department of Labor

    While browsing around I found ...

    Minimum Wage and Overtime Pay

    The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) establishes standards for minimum wages, overtime ...
    The Act does not limit either the number of hours in a day or the number of days in a week that an employer may require an employee to work, ...
    does not limit the number of hours of overtime that may be scheduled.

    Work Hours - Overtime

    ... the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) requires overtime pay to be at least one and one-half times an employee's regular rate of pay after 40 hours of work in a workweek. Some exceptions apply under special circumstances to police and firefighters and to employees of hospitals and nursing homes. Some states have overtime laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal overtime laws, the employee is entitled to overtime according to the higher standard ...

    Extra pay for working weekends or nights is a matter of agreement between the employer and the employee ...


    Minimum Wage Laws in the States

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  8. by   ChristineN
    Quote from elizabeth321
    why would anyone book themselves to do that? and how can it not be overtime.....are there not labour laws?

    Liz
    It only becomes overtime once they go over 40 hours a week.
  9. by   outcomesfirst
    Quote from ChristineN
    It only becomes overtime once they go over 40 hours a week.
    Not sure, but I think it depends on the state law. Some states (CA, I think is one) has an 8 or 80 hour law meaning over 8 hours per day or 80 hours in two weeks. I think you sign this away if you accept 12 hour shifts as your usuual schedule.
  10. by   WOLFE
    love 12 hrs...and with it the extra days off.
  11. by   scrubsnhugsRN
    I prefer 12 hour days, continuity for one reason (pt care), but the main reason is more recoupe time and time for family!
  12. by   jjjoy
    One of the biggest complaints I heard when working at place with 8 hr shifts was that there they almost never got more than one day off at a time.

    Many people like 12 hr shifts because off the block time off they can get.

    If a place if understaffed and one is running around all shift and staying late and is totally wiped out, why not just work 12s and get it over with? However, if the shifts aren't total chaos and don't totally drain a person physically and mentally, then 8 hour shifts where you can have a life before or after your shift seems more palatable.

    I personally prefer working several days in a row and getting as many of the same patients as possible but 3 12s in a row in most settings just slowly kills me - though I'd like the block time off just as well the next person.

    In my ideal world there'd be four well-staffed 10-hours shifts/wk with substantial shift overlap for change of shift including a walking report to each patient bedside.
  13. by   hica19
    The hospital I work at schedules the staff very well. Very very rarel do nurses work three 12 hour shifts in a row. It's usually one 12 hour on, one day off, two 12 hours on, and 3 days off. I find this kind of schedule working really well for me.

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