Down and Dirty In The Oklahoma State Board of Nursing - page 2

Imagine someone who has worked all his adult life in healthcare, an orderlie in high school, EMT, a paramedic supervisor 8 yrs, and RN 17yrs ( ER charge, ICU charge, specializing in open heart... Read More

  1. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you for the reply and kind words. In 1999 I altered a prescription for lortab from 5mg to 7.5mg and was charged with a class C felony. Once again thank you. Sleepless In Norman...QUOTE=CHATSDALE]Call Your Nursing Board And Get A Personal Injury Lawyer.....were You Convicted Of Drug Abuse Or Did You Come Up In Testing???i Believe That It Would Make A Difference......there May Be A Program That Will Allow A Nurse To Work In A Facility Where They Will Not Come In Contact With Control Drugs....i Know That There Was A Dentist In Town That Could Not Prescribe Anyhthing For Pain But Now
    He Has Full Privileges...don't Know The Whole Story There

    Don't Give Up I Just Read In The Paper This Past Week Of The Arrest Of A Nurse I Used To Work With.....breaks My Heart For Someone To Lose So Much To Bad Decisions...let This Be A Learning Experience And Go Forward Good Luck[/QUOTE]
  2. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you for the kind words, In 1999 I pled no contest to a singly count prescription alteration charge , I altered a lortab prescription from 5mg to 7.5, was placed on probation of which I successfully completed.
    Quote from CHATSDALE
    Call Your Nursing Board And Get A Personal Injury Lawyer.....were You Convicted Of Drug Abuse Or Did You Come Up In Testing???i Believe That It Would Make A Difference......there May Be A Program That Will Allow A Nurse To Work In A Facility Where They Will Not Come In Contact With Control Drugs....i Know That There Was A Dentist In Town That Could Not Prescribe Anyhthing For Pain But Now
    He Has Full Privileges...don't Know The Whole Story There

    Don't Give Up I Just Read In The Paper This Past Week Of The Arrest Of A Nurse I Used To Work With.....breaks My Heart For Someone To Lose So Much To Bad Decisions...let This Be A Learning Experience And Go Forward Good Luck
  3. by   BadBird
    Sorry but I am not falling for the poor me defense, YOU decided to take the Lortabs and brought about the problems on yourself now you want to point the blame at the State Board of Nursing. No pal, you were/are a addict and the BON has a obligation to keep unsafe nurses from harming patients, perhaps you did not harm a patient but we only know your side. If you are clean and sober and went through rehab then perhaps another State would welcome you. People must be held accountable for their own actions and not blame others, work hard to rectify the situation and move on with their lives. Good luck to you.
  4. by   sleepless in norman
    I appreciate your reply, however you have missed the intention of my message, it is purely a question of Legal arguement, not a help me, wounded duck syndrome, I have taken full responsibilty for my actions and rectified my problem, I have taken alot of humiliation, but once agin I'm not here to put in a sick call, all statements are true and correct, the legal right to the constitutional amendments is being tampered with in the state of Oklahoma, now with the legislature session ending, a Tort reform bill in Oklahoma has passed, negating many of the rights of an individual to recover for damages, but inview of what I've seen, I understand your scrutiny. Thank you for your reply. OTE=BadBird]Sorry but I am not falling for the poor me defense, YOU decided to take the Lortabs and brought about the problems on yourself now you want to point the blame at the State Board of Nursing. No pal, you were/are a addict and the BON has a obligation to keep unsafe nurses from harming patients, perhaps you did not harm a patient but we only know your side. If you are clean and sober and went through rehab then perhaps another State would welcome you. People must be held accountable for their own actions and not blame others, work hard to rectify the situation and move on with their lives. Good luck to you.[/QUOTE]
  5. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you for your reply and kind words.
    Quote from traumaRUs
    Gosh I don't know enough about this kind of stuff to make any suggestions, however, I would advise you contacting a malpractice lawyer because I do know they can help is some of the wrongful termination problems. I wish you luck and congrats on your sobriety.
  6. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you for your reply, yes I have since been advised by the Board that the investigating officer on my case, reported me, thank you agian for your kind words, in 1999 I pled no contest to a single count prescription alteration charge and was given probation, I altered a prescription for lortab from 5mg to 7.5mg. QUOTE=oldfolksnurse]Are you sure the OK BON reported you to OIG? The corporation that I work for in GA performs "sanction checks" on potential hires. These sanction checks are on the OIG site. Not sure exactly what drives a person's name to be there except that they have somehow committed Medicare/Medicaid fraud.
    I had to terminate a nurse in my employment due to her name coming up on the sanction check (every three months is required by my corp.), and this was 6 months after she was employed (came up clean on her initial check, license clean, etc.) and she had NO CLUE as to what she had done.
    It has to do with the Homeland Security Act... [/QUOTE]
  7. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you jfor your reply and kind words.
    Quote from BabyRN2Be
    I wish that I could help you. I'm in Oklahoma, and I agree, this is a podunk state where the Good Ol' Boy System reigns. Have you contacted a lawyer? I think that this would be the appropriate action. Good luck to you, and I hope that you stay clean and strong.
  8. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you for your reply and kind words, the OIG is federal entity, once on their exclusion list, it follows you anywhere in the continental United States,the list was initially for Physicians but the ANA decided to lobby for it to include all healthcare workers, in 1999 I pled no contest to a single count prescription alteration(I altered a prescription form 5mg to 7.5mg) this is a class C felony, I was placed on 3yrs probaiton and it was expunged form my record, no My oklahoma license has been suspended, because I couldn't find work, wich is a part of PEER, and plus I couldn't afford to pay for the random drug screens and the group fees in order to remain in PEER, but your right, I plan to move to another state in the very neer future, the only places Iv'e found to work for are an assisted living company, but once agian, even though my record has been expunged of the felony, the Oklahoma State board knows and notify all other state that I apply to, not to mention the fact I'm still on the OIG exclusion list, once again thank you for your kind words.
    Quote from GEO
    I Thought Being Upfront With The Obn And Following Through With The Peer Assistance Program Was Respected By The Obn. So Questions???? The Office Of Inspector General Exclusion List And Not Being Able To Work For A Medicaid Or Medicare Facilty..where Does This List Come From And Does It Include The Whole Usa...was That Caused By Changing The Script??? Is That A Felony? Sorry, I Am Just Trying To Understand This. And I Guess I Am More Uninformed Than I Ever Gave Thought To. So, Do You Have A Valid Okla License??? Could You Move To Another State, Is This An Option Or Would This Exclusion List Follow You?? It Is My Understanding That Even A Physician Who Losses Their License Can Work For A Place Like The Doc. The Only Reason I Understood This I Worked With A Very Good Physician Once, Who Lost His License And Was Told He Was Working For The Doc In The Same State He Lost His License In. Now That Is What I Understood. Dont Give Up 'sleepless In Norman'....if You Are Clean And Mean To Stay That Way, There Has To Be A Way Through This. Taking A Danger From The Public Is One Thing But Someone Who Has Worked Hard To Clean Up,this Doesnt Sound Right To Me.
  9. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you for your reply and kind words, no my license has been suspended, due to the fact aht when I was terminated from Sta. Anthonys for being on the OIG exclusion list I couldn't find a job and therefore couldn't afford to remain in PEER,ie the cost of drug screening and groups. but I do plan on moving, I just need to find a state that will reward a person for doing the right thing to overcome a bad thing. once again, thank you.
    Quote from moia
    Do you still have a vaild nursing licence?
    There are alot of states that still have a reciprocity agreement...meaning if you have a valid licence from OK they will give you a licence in their state......there is no investigation etc.
    You do still have to find a large preferably teaching hospital to apply to...these places are just too big and too busy to do any criminal investigations.

    At this point I believe you have done your time and paid for your crime..your business is yours...you need a job...see if a neighbouring state will licence you before you move....apply for a job before you move...don't do anything until everything is set up and ready to go...there are states dying for experienced critical nurses...you may want to check out a travelling agency...you have options..don't give up hope.
  10. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you for your thoughts, you make sense.
    Quote from Shezam!
    Personally I wouldn't bother with a lawyer if OK is a "good ole boy" state.
    The lawyers and BON are probably in bed together and if the BON didn't do a good enough job of screwing you the lawyers will.
    I'd head for greener pastures and put it behind me.

    Of course you may have some 'splainin' to do elsewhere, but I wouldn't get bogged down in a lawsuit. JMO.

    I'd move and get a job somewhere else.

    Good luck.
  11. by   Sheri257
    Have you tried contacting your local congressmen? It may be a long shot but, they can sometimes get a lot accomplished with federal bureaucracies on behalf of constituents. At least you wouldn't have anything to lose by asking for their help with the OIG list.

  12. by   donnar232
    Quote from sleepless in norman
    Thank you jfor your reply and kind words.
    question. Is the OIG the same as a a list coming back from a background check? Im confused because in my state RI, if you expunge a record and you have to wait 10 yrs or more to expunge for a felony, You do not have to list it as your a felon. sometimes it takes a fall like this to wake us up amd realize how serious addiction can be. Dont let others downgrade you with their words. It is a disease and we do pay for our actions and Im sure you paid enough. Everyone has skeltons in their closet. Some more than others Donna
  13. by   sleepless in norman
    Yes the OIG is different. I is a list of all felons in the US, originally the healthcare entity was made to include Physicians for medicare/medicaid fraud, since the ANA has adopted a policy to include all healthcare idividuals, it is not a part of a basic background check, the OIG exclusion list has to be specifically accessed, since my felony was a deferred sentnece, and I was only placed on probation, this meant my conviction was not complete, if a deferred sentence is completed with probation, the indidvidual can petition back in the court for an expungment at the end of a successfull completion of a probationary period, I think what you are referring to is the 10 yr period after a felony convicton is completed that that particular felony cannot be used as an afterformer to enhance any crime commited after the 10yr period, and you are right after ten years wheather you have expunged a charge or completed the terms of the judgment and sentence, you don't have to expose any charges, I hope my experience doesn't scare anyone, but I feel people need to know these things in order to protect their careers. I hope this is helpfull. Once again thank you. OTE=donnar232]question. Is the OIG the same as a a list coming back from a background check? Im confused because in my state RI, if you expunge a record and you have to wait 10 yrs or more to expunge for a felony, You do not have to list it as your a felon. sometimes it takes a fall like this to wake us up amd realize how serious addiction can be. Dont let others downgrade you with their words. It is a disease and we do pay for our actions and Im sure you paid enough. Everyone has skeltons in their closet. Some more than others Donna[/QUOTE]

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