Does your hospital have mostly 12 or 8 hour nursing positions??? - page 2

In the past year we've gone from mostly 8 hour to mostly 12 hour shifts. I only work 8 hours. I find after 8 hours I get too tired, let alone working 12 hours per shift. I used to work 12... Read More

  1. by   Josefin
    The "european style" is good in that way: The dayshifts are overlaping eachother with 3 hours between 13-16. Its pretty good, because those hours are often pretty hectic.
  2. by   RN-PA
    Josefin,

    I *LIKE* the way Europeans do things-- GREAT idea of the overlap! The hours between 1500-1800 are some of the busiest, most chaotic times I've ever experienced and extra help would be heavenly!

    Many Europeans take a month of vacation in the summer, too, I've heard. As I said, I *LIKE* the way Europeans do things!
  3. by   RNforLongTime
    I work in ICU and all of our staff works 12 hour shifts. I only have to work 3 days a week now! Sure I am taking a bit of a pay cut, but my sanity is well worth the price. The med/surg floors are about half and half, some nurses work 12's and some work eights. Like kewl said, I would never EVER want to go back to working 5 eight hour days a week!
  4. by   RNinMay
    I work in ICU, and we have both 12 and 8 hour shifts. Most people do one or the other, but I do a combination of 2 12's and 2 8's per week. So I work four days. This allows me to work around my husband's schedule for the sake of childcare.
    If you work 3-11, chances are a 12 hour person will have your assignment from the next day----but they don't give them up for you. That's just the rule of 3-11, you probably wont' get your patients back. There are no hard feelings, that's just the way it is!
  5. by   wolfox
    So,those of you who work 12s and ay you would never go back to 8s because you get 4d per week off...how many days in a row do you get off?

    We have only 12 hour shifts, with no part-time...the schedule is fixed so that you work 4 12s one week and three the next. We generally get 2 days off in a row-the same as if you work 5 eight hour shifts. Twice a month you get 3 in a row off.

    If you work nights (as I do) you sleep your first day off, so you really only end up with 1 day off that you can function. Twice a month you end up with 2 days off. Most of us commute an hour to the hospital, so the days that we work, we have no personal time. It's like having 2 weekends off per month. I'd rather work 8 hours and have some personal time during each day and four weekends per month.
  6. by   kewlnurse
    You have no benefit wolffox, Latley i have been working weekends, fri, sat and sun, so i always have 4 off.
  7. by   wolfox
    hmmmmmm....you're in Buffalo NY??? Wonder how long the commute would be from Farmington, New Mexico???? There are only four hospitals within an hour and a half drive and they are all doing this"Creative scheduling."

    And the fourth 12 hour shift in a one week pay period is not 12 hours overtime, but 4 hours overtime per biweekly paycheck.

    I think we're getting s....ed, and never even got kissed first!
  8. by   clintn91180
    I am only a student, but I look forward to working 12 hour shifts and getting 4 days off a week!!! To me that sounds like the perfect schedule, although their are exceptions, because it sounds like Wolfox's schedule kind of stinks. I think if at all possible their should be some kind of mixture though, since I can understand not everybody would be happy with 12 hour shifts.
  9. by   Nurse_Bonita
    I am only a student and I currently work as an aide. One nursing home I worked at tried 12 hour shifts, but half of the aides wouldn't do it. The hall the 8 hour people worked was always short so us 12 hours people would get pulled over there for 8 hours then go back to our own hall for 4. It was AWFUL
  10. by   Josefin
    Originally posted by RN-PA
    Josefin,

    I *LIKE* the way Europeans do things-- GREAT idea of the overlap! The hours between 1500-1800 are some of the busiest, most chaotic times I've ever experienced and extra help would be heavenly!

    Many Europeans take a month of vacation in the summer, too, I've heard. As I said, I *LIKE* the way Europeans do things!
    Yeah I think that we europenas have moaned more about working condditions than you have in the US! It has lead to more generous and secure employment conditions. For example here in Sweden we have about 25-30 days of holiday/year to take as you wish (ok- all staff cant be on holiday in july, but...). Before if was common that people took a whole month off in summer, but not many do that anymore. The most common way now is to take for ex. 2 weeks off in summer, one around christmas and one at easter.
  11. by   horsecrazy
    i recently started working 2 twelves and 2 eights every week and love it, had the option of working 3 twelves, but you get less benefits. The only problem i have is other nurses who do 8 hour shift and expect me to give them their patients back after caring for them for 4 hours, they have a real attitude. I tell them this is the way of dealing with the nursing shortage. Our unit is 12 fulltime nurses shy, but since a good handfull has started the 12 hours it has made it a lot easier.
    we also have self-scedule ourselves, so eventhough i may work a 4-5 day stretch i can get sometimes five days off, eventhough i work nights it is so worth it.
  12. by   DougD1
    What a great concept MHN presents. Wish we could look at some sort of shift overlap to help out on med surg units so patient care doesn't get LOST at shift change times. In my hospital most of the nurses are 12 hours. The remaining 8 hour nurses are a decided minority and work mostly in clinic type areas.
    How would patient care, nursing retention, quality of care delivery play out against the increased monetary costs associated with this?
  13. by   luvrn
    We have 4-8-12 hour shifts. If you work 3-11 your don't give up your assignment just because a 12 hour had it last night. I like 3-12 shifts. I usually work M-Th-F. Don't work much w/e because of seniority and enough staff...Yes, our floor is actually staffed (one of 2 floors in our hospital that is) we still argue though that as sick as our patients are that our ratio could be higher at times. The ones that work every other w/e have 4-5 days off. Our week starts on Sunday, so they work Sun off Mon work Tue, Wed, and then not till next Wed if they schedule it that way.

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