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Our new DON at a LTC facility I work at just announced to the staff a couple of days ago about a new policy she has in place. She states that if you call off sick for any reason whatsoever, even if... Read More

  1. by   LPN1974
    Quote from nurseangel78
    Our new DON at a LTC facility I work at just announced to the staff a couple of days ago about a new policy she has in place. She states that if you call off sick for any reason whatsoever, even if you have a doctor's excuse, that you have to call another employee to get coverage for the shift you are suppose to work and if no one covers your shift or you don't come in to work then you get wrote up, 3 write ups and your gone. A lot of people are furious where I work about this, including me. In the employee handbook, it states that you need to call in 2 hours or more before you are scheduled to work, and after 2 absences a doctor's note is needed. What is the policy where you work?

    Also, how do you prioritize family and work. She states that this facility and the patients should come first? Do you put your patients 1st, then your family 2nd?
    That's the most ridiculous policy I've ever heard of.
    That DON woulnd't ever have to go to the trouble of having to write me up the third time, cause I'd be looking for another job. {You were looking for one when you found that one weren't you?} Someone who is very ill is not able to find a replacement. She's just trying to pass that buck onto the staff.
    She better roll up HER sleeves, cause it sounds like she's gonna have more work to do than she bargained for.
    And the employee handbook is just as ridiculous.
    If I read your post right, your handbook is saying that EVERY time after the 3rd call in, you have to have a dr's excuse?
    Something about that just doesn't sound right. You can be sick and not actually have to go to the doctor. Just a really bad cold can put you to bed for a week. FAMILIES GET SICK. We all have kids, parents, grandparents.
    Heck I've even taken a day off for my DOG once, but I couldn't actually use a SICK day, it was a vacation day, but when you've been up with a sick dog all night, that eventually had to be humanely put to sleep because of old age/illness, a person is not FIT for work the next day.
    Sheeeesh, what is wrong with employers today????
    Each call in should be treated individually.
    My job gives you 5 sick days before you need a Dr's excuse, and as long as you don't show a PATTERN of sick leave abuse, they can't do anything to you. Example of sick leave abuse would be like calling in every week just before or after your off days, or maybe every weekend.
    It's a fair policy and it works. Just don't abuse it, or call in sick and then get caught out shopping.
    Use common sense.
  2. by   live4today
    Quote from nurseangel78
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    also, how do you prioritize family and work. she states that this facility and the patients should come first? do you put your patients 1st, then your family 2nd?
    you're kidding right? that's the same as saying "do you value your job more than your family" which is absolutely a big fat "no!!!"

    no job comes before my family, so there is nothing that an employer could say to me that would make me put working for them above my family. heck, i remember the labor pains with each one of my children, and no way can any job make up for that!
  3. by   KacyLynnRN
    I used to work for a manager like that, and thank god I don't anymore. I would get the heck out of there as fast as you can. You'll be happier for it in the long run, trust me.
  4. by   Plagueis
    Like everyone else, I believe that's the most outrageous absence policy I've ever heard of. However, I'm shouldn't be really surprised. I had a friend lose her job for missing one day of work, even though she had a doctor's note, and always showed up to work before her illness. Don't employers realize that everybody gets sick, or they may have to leave work early, or not come into work, in case of a family emergency? They must think that all employees should be illness-free, with no outside work obligations, such as our families. I would not want to work for that place, and I think that I'll try to find out about the absence/sick policy of the place that I'm going to work for in the future before I start work there.
  5. by   LPNer
    Quote from Tommybabe
    Like everyone else, I believe that's the most outrageous absence policy I've ever heard of. However, I'm shouldn't be really surprised. I had a friend lose her job for missing one day of work, even though she had a doctor's note, and always showed up to work before her illness. Don't employers realize that everybody gets sick, or they may have to leave work early, or not come into work, in case of a family emergency? They must think that all employees should be illness-free, with no outside work obligations, such as our families. I would not want to work for that place, and I think that I'll try to find out about the absence/sick policy of the place that I'm going to work for in the future before I start work there.
    Unfortunately there are those, and they are usually the ones driven to be in management, who do not miss work. Of course they are also the ones who have a major MI at 40 something, or are bitter and just down right unhappy. You can't reason with those kinds of people. The only thing to do is take the time spent on the job as a short term learning experience and move on. Or, you can always wait until the kids get chicken pox, caycare refuses to take them and your sister really doesn't want her kids exposed and you have to take a few days off and loose that job. Personally, I would rather look for a new job because I want to find one, not because I was fired!
  6. by   Boston1
    Something I learned years ago about human nature, in general. People that put a policy like this in place - know that people abuse priveleges, and the reason they know is because THEY did it. Moving on may not be an option. If I had to call in sick, I would follow the handbook rules, and to CYA I'd call the DON directly and let the DON know you're not able to seek coverage. Then it's in her lap - where it belongs.

    Quote from nurseangel78
    Our new DON at a LTC facility I work at just announced to the staff a couple of days ago about a new policy she has in place. She states that if you call off sick for any reason whatsoever, even if you have a doctor's excuse, that you have to call another employee to get coverage for the shift you are suppose to work and if no one covers your shift or you don't come in to work then you get wrote up, 3 write ups and your gone. A lot of people are furious where I work about this, including me. In the employee handbook, it states that you need to call in 2 hours or more before you are scheduled to work, and after 2 absences a doctor's note is needed. What is the policy where you work?

    Also, how do you prioritize family and work. She states that this facility and the patients should come first? Do you put your patients 1st, then your family 2nd?
    Last edit by Boston1 on Mar 21, '05
  7. by   nurseangel78
    I called out sick last week with a doctors excuse. I was unable to find coverage, so the LPN social worker worked the shift that i was suppose to work.
    When I went back to work she looked so disgusted. Guess she doesn't think anyone ever gets sick?? Also, she has given out all the employee's home and cell phone numbers to other employee's for us to call to get coverage if we are out sick, is this legal??
  8. by   jyoung1950
    Quote from nurseangel78
    Our new DON at a LTC facility I work at just announced to the staff a couple of days ago about a new policy she has in place. She states that if you call off sick for any reason whatsoever, even if you have a doctor's excuse, that you have to call another employee to get coverage for the shift you are suppose to work and if no one covers your shift or you don't come in to work then you get wrote up, 3 write ups and your gone. A lot of people are furious where I work about this, including me. In the employee handbook, it states that you need to call in 2 hours or more before you are scheduled to work, and after 2 absences a doctor's note is needed. What is the policy where you work?

    Also, how do you prioritize family and work. She states that this facility and the patients should come first? Do you put your patients 1st, then your family 2nd?
    And they wonder why they can't get good people to work at these places and a nursing shortage.

    Why work in a profession where so many treat you like a child from the get go.
  9. by   NoCrumping
    Without getting into my facility's call in policy, let me say this: It is not YOUR responsibility to staff the unit, it is MANAGEMENTS responsibility. Get another job, if you can. If you need to take an extensive medical leave, god forbid, should you be expected to pay for and place an ad in the paper to find a replacement??????:angryfire
  10. by   explorer
    Quote from nurseangel78
    Our new DON at a LTC facility I work at just announced to the staff a couple of days ago about a new policy she has in place. She states that if you call off sick for any reason whatsoever, even if you have a doctor's excuse, that you have to call another employee to get coverage for the shift you are suppose to work and if no one covers your shift or you don't come in to work then you get wrote up, 3 write ups and your gone. A lot of people are furious where I work about this, including me. In the employee handbook, it states that you need to call in 2 hours or more before you are scheduled to work, and after 2 absences a doctor's note is needed. What is the policy where you work?

    Also, how do you prioritize family and work. She states that this facility and the patients should come first? Do you put your patients 1st, then your family 2nd?
    Work is A temporary thing, family is forever!
  11. by   meownsmile
    I dont think id want to work for a facility that expected me to put my family 2nd to anything. And to think they are in charge of caring for others FAMILY members.
    I agree,, any facility has no legal leg to give out other workers home phone numbers. Get out,, dont look back. The DON will find herself running that place alright,, by herself.
  12. by   pitto
    Please tell me this is a joke. In Australia this type of harassment/bullying is unlawful and I've never experienced it in 25 years of work. If you are sick, you are sick, if you've run out of sick days without a doctor's certificate than you are still sick but you may not get paid if you don't have one. Surely there are industrial relations laws to protect those workers who are legitmately sick. :angryfire :angryfire
    Last edit by pitto on Apr 8, '05
  13. by   mugwump
    Couple bits of advise, look up FMLA as long as your companay has more than 50 employees as long as it is a qualified FMLA event (incapacitated for 3 or more days "not able to attend work or school" gone to the doctor 2 or more times or for treatment "prescription" they can't fire you without facing heftly fines like it's against the law and lawsuits.
    Now the not so nice part of me says next time you have the stomach flu go throw up on her and when she gets mad say "sorry couldn't find someone to work for me" :chuckle

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