Yet Another Pre-Employment Drug Screen Thread - page 5

by YouSmellLikeCDiff

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I apologize for contributing to the seemingly endless amount of threads that focus on drug test concerns. I would have voiced my concerns elsewhere if I knew it would not be lost in the vast sea of "I took a ----- & I have to pee... Read More


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    Congratulations! Im really happy for you. And to the person who just ripped me apart at the start of this page...settle down. I apologized for my rudeness...everyone has bad days. Good luck with the new job and I wish you the best!
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    Thank you for the kind words!
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    Great news!
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    Quote from YouSmellLikeCDiff
    **UPDATE**
    THE HOSPITAL FORMALLY MADE ME AN OFFER! ...in which I gratefully accepted, obviously.

    Here's the thing, I never received a call from a MRO. This can mean one of two things: 1. I tested negative for all the drugs screened or 2. I tested positive and a call will soon be made. BUT it's been almost 2 weeks since the day of the drug screen. Does a call from a MRO usually take this long? Seeing as I was given a formal job offer, I would think that everything came back clear.

    Thank you to each and every one of you who commented. Whether you told me to relax, gave me information, or told me that my post was far too long/detailed, I found relief in your words. You all definitely decreased my anxiety level! I was going insane and I needed advice, which was abundantly provided.

    I start orientation at my new job Monday. It's surreal. Always dreaming of becoming a nurse, going through hell and back with nursing school, and then finally getting your dream job... All the blood, sweat, and tears have finally paid off! Now it's time to start doing what nursing is all about. Helping others!
    I didn't keep reading when I posted my last post, CONGRATS on the job, I'm so glad you got it! I'm also glad you shared your story with us and I enjoyed reading it because a lot of us have been in a similar situation! Best of luck to you
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    I also liked your detail and the way you write is actually very engaging. What I came away with, besides the points of your dilemma, is that you seem like a fun person I would enjoy working with. As for the issue itself, again, if you have a prescription, I wouldn't worry. A lot of the nurses I know are medicated with prescription BZ's, a little methylphenidate seems like not a problem...I mean, you're not a meth-head.
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    Congrats! I hope that you enjoy your new job!!
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    Quote from MunoRN
    It is legal for an employer to ask for a list of your meds but only after a conditional offer of employment has been made.

    The drug screening company can actually disclose what legal meds you are on, even if you produce a valid prescription. Employers are not required to allow drug use even if it is legally prescribed and can test for these as well as illegal drug use.
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    Not true...depends on the drug, depends on what it is for.

    No, they cannot ask you for a drug list for "anything" you are not, formal employment offer or not. That is a violation of HIPAA. You can bet your bottom dollar that if I was taking medication for herpes or HIV meds, it's none of my employer's business.

    Some exceptions depend on what you are on and to keep an employer from being in violation of American's with Disabilities Act (which also covers short-term treatment), you have the LEGAL RIGHT TO BE TREATED AND ALLOWED TO WORK.

    For example, it is not appropriate for you to be on a ton of Loritabs and working. No matter how much pain you are in even if you are taking the meds in accordance with your prescription. That isn't safe for you or your patients.

    However, I can assure you that the medication list is limited to what can IMPAIR YOU while working and no other medication list is legal to ask for.
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    Quote from Jory
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    Not true...depends on the drug, depends on what it is for.

    No, they cannot ask you for a drug list for "anything" you are not, formal employment offer or not. That is a violation of HIPAA. You can bet your bottom dollar that if I was taking medication for herpes or HIV meds, it's none of my employer's business.

    Some exceptions depend on what you are on and to keep an employer from being in violation of American's with Disabilities Act (which also covers short-term treatment), you have the LEGAL RIGHT TO BE TREATED AND ALLOWED TO WORK.

    For example, it is not appropriate for you to be on a ton of Loritabs and working. No matter how much pain you are in even if you are taking the meds in accordance with your prescription. That isn't safe for you or your patients.

    However, I can assure you that the medication list is limited to what can IMPAIR YOU while working and no other medication list is legal to ask for.
    As a disabled nurse......who got promptly dumped by her employer......it depends on your state. Mostly because you need to be physically fit for the position. Did you know that There are states that actually have mandated reporting for Licensed personnel if they deal with the public that request psychiatric/detox services? That you are mandated to report them and they are placed in monitoring programs immediately? SO much for helping.

    They are in their legal right to ask to "protect" the public.....you would be very surprised what the ADA allows and how hard it is to be actually protected by this act in the probate sector.

    Just like the handicapped sign doesn't mean that it is handicapped accessible......have you ever tried to use a wheelchair at 7-11 or a clothes store at the mall with your teenager? or need a handicap access van spot and there are only two of them for the 200 spots at the grocery store because it is all they are required to do.

    Hospitals have very expensive lawyers that are very good at skirting the law.

    That is the brutal truth.
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    Quote from Esme12
    As a disabled nurse......who got promptly dumped by her employer......it depends on your state. Mostly because you need to be physically fit for the position. Did you know that There are states that actually have mandated reporting for Licensed personnel if they deal with the public that request psychiatric/detox services? That you are mandated to report them and they are placed in monitoring programs immediately? SO much for helping.
    Well, this isn't exactly what I am referring to. People with addiction issues fall into a different category and even though on one hand, I feel that if you need psychiatric counseling, that should be private...but as in the recent case with the Nanny in NYC that just took out two kids (who had recently been seeking treatment...yes, I know she isn't a nurse, but you get the picture), I can understand why some states would consider this reportable.

    I also agree that you need to be physically fit for the position. I could do my job effectively if I was on crutches (I work in an office where we don't see those that are sick, no longer at the hospital) but it would be very unsafe for me to work in a place where I may have to respond to a code. I can support that as well, but I agree it sucks if you are on the receiving end.

    An employer should make reasonable accommodations. There are tons of positions in a hospital and it's sad when they toss out knowledgeable and experienced nurses whose body has simply failed them...there are other ways to use that knowledge. It's a waste of resources to let them go.


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