VENT! They could've KILLED somebody!

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Let me first say that I have been a nurse for less than 6 months. But this made me really nervous, and I wondered what they were thinking!

John and Jane are both nurses on my unit. We do team nursing - Jane was passing meds for half of the unit while John was performing patient care for the same patients. One patient has an elevated blood sugar. Jane took blood sugars herself and followed policy; his blood sugar was rechecked and the accountable RN (me) was notfied. I notified the doc, doc said use sliding scale per order.

I tell Jane to give Mr. XX his 8 units of sliding scale, docs orders. She says okay. A few minutes later, I found John in the med room (using Jane's key and Jane's computer) drawing up insulin. He asks me a question about the computer, so I go to look over his shoulder. On the desk I see an insulin syringe with 10 units drawn up. On the computer screen, i see he has typed "Verified with Jane Doe, LPN." (meaning he as verified the insulin with her - patient, type, amount, etc.) I ask him what he's doing in the med room, anyway. He tells me Jane is at lunch and asked him to give Mr. "YY" his insulin. But Mr. YY's blood sugar was normal. He tells me that he knew that, but had to fix it in the computer. HE HAD NOT GIVEN THE INSULIN YET, thank god. He says no big deal, Jane told him Mr. YY but she meant Mr. XX. So he was going to go give Mr. XX the insulin now, not to worry. I had to tell him to verify the order again, because Mr. XX should receive 8 units, not 10!

Long story short, he came really close to giving the WRONG patient 10 units of regular insulin.

I know now the difference between nursing school and the real world. But I would never give insulin (ESPECIALLY 10 units) to a patient when I was not the med nurse nor had I personally checked his blood sugar or looked up lab in the computer to verify that the blood sugar was indeed that elevated.

What do you think? Someone walks up to you and says, "I just checked mr. smith's blood sugar and it's 402, could you give him 10 units of insulin for me?," would you do it?

I say she shouldn't have asked him and he shouldn't have agreed.

Specializes in Med Surg, Ortho.

In the case of having two nurses sign off on insulin. In most cases, I just see nurses scan each other's badge or something....I've never seen the "other" nurse look or verify the dose of insulin.

I'm going to want the nurse to show me her dose if I'm the second nurse signing off her insulin. I'm sure there going to consider me biotchy, but hey, it's my license. Do any other nurses here ok the second dose without looking at it? Am I over reacting to this practice?

Specializes in telemetry, med-surg, home health, psych.

the med nurse draws it up, shows it to me, and I OK it....that is how we do it where I work....I wouldn't verify anything that I didn't look at.....

we all can make a mistake, that is why 2 check it.....:D

Specializes in Tele, ED/Pediatrics, CCU/MICU.

In my unit, if I have to give insulin, it goes like this:

I obtain the vial ,draw it up, and then take it to RN # 2 and place it in front of her.

She then tells me the kind of insulin in the vial and how many units I have of it, as I simultaneous re-check the order.

It works!

As the title of the post indicates, they COULD have killed somebody. Luckily it was caught. You don't play with Insulin!

ITA Giving insulin-especially 10 units- to someone with normal blood sugar is scary. For those nurses not to even think this was a problem is even scarier.

On our unit it is a medication error if you do not have your insulin dose verified and signed. Common courtesy to other nurses have everything drawn up, mars available for them to ck and sign before you call them over to do the ck. A very nice nurse pointed this out to me early on. Also when you need to waste a narcotic. Have it all ready to go. Also it seems obvious to me now, but leave syringe in vial. I wasn't doing this at first and again this was pointed out to me lucily in a nice way.

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