New grad looking for first job - what could make a hospital do this?

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I'm a new graduate; I graduated in January and received my license in April. The marketplace around here is pretty tough, but most people from my graduating class have found jobs by now.

I've had a lot of interviews in the area, mostly for ERs, with no job offer yet. I have several years of EMT experience and I most desire to become an ER nurse. This past week I had an interview at a level I trauma center.

My story here: This last hospital I interviewed at, I went in for an initial interview a week prior and then I shadowed the ER for about 7 hours. I met most of the staff that day (about 25-30 nurses as well as staff from other professions) and got along very well with virtually every single one of them. I did everything I could on the unit. My contact on the unit told me that the assistant manager was impressed and she told him that I would probably get the job.

I came back and met with the ER manager for my second interview. She was very excited and did most of the talking; telling me about orientation, the unit and hospital, etc. She asked me a few questions but I mostly had to interject to sell myself to her. At the very end of the 30 minute interview, I asked her if she could see me working out in the position. She said "absolutely," then I listened as she listed five reasons to hire me. She told me to call back in one or two weeks when the three positions were officially open. I asked her if there was anything that could prevent her from hiring me, and she basically stated that if she had three good candidates with experience then she may take them over me. Otherwise it sounded like my chances were pretty good, because she was having trouble getting those with experience in the door.

The next day, I got a call from HR saying that I was no longer being considered as a candidate. It was a very vague statement and she wouldn't go into detail beyond me not having any experience. I wondered if someone had trashed me or something, so I later emailed the HR lady who called me and asked her if she contacted my references, and she hadn't. My references later confirmed to me that they had not been contacted. I also sent a courteous email to the ER director who interviewed me, stating that I was disappointed but did not take the rejection personally, and I asked what I could have improved, and I got no response.

What would make such a ridiculous 180 occur? What I suspect is that somebody above her head must have told her not to hire me, and that it may have been strictly a business decision. Either that or there was some red flag that she thought she found on me; but even then, I can't imagine what that would be. It costs approximately $50k for the hospital to train a new graduate into the ER so it's one of the toughest units to get into as a new graduate, so any doubt in their mind could be enough to prevent me from getting the job.

Frankly I'm tired of being played like this. This is not the first time this has happened to me; where I've had an awesome interview and then got shot down less than 24 hours later. This next week I'm going around to manors from the area to see if it isn't significantly easier to get a job at one of them. I need to get my initial experience and hospitals have been bumming me out.

mclennan, you're making this to be much more dramatic than it actually is. I'll lay low for at least a few weeks, then consult people who actually know me and her instead rather than this message board. If my contact in the hospital inquires for me, it will be brief and friendly. He knows her very well. I won't contact her again.

Steph, thanks for sharing. I'm sorry to hear that.

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Back to the original issue - is there anything showing up on your social networks that could leave a negative impression? Our hiring managers have begun to Google as part of their initial 'screening out' process. If they don't like what they see on Facebook or Twitter, they are likely to remove that applicant from further consideration.

Better safe than sorry - Just 'saying . . . .

No, I googled my name and all you can find is my high school football and track stats. You can't find my facebook via google, and I made it as private as possible and deleted anything I said when I was younger that could incriminate me.

Is it possible to be blacklisted from one hospital's HR department and have that be shared with other hospitals, even across another state?

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They're supposed to send something called an adverse action letter. I was reading about it today. Judging a candidate by their credit score is a very flawed and ridiculous practice. So far it seems they haven't found an actual correlation between credit score and job performance. People who lose their jobs end up with worse credit scores because they can't pay their bills, then have a harder time finding a job because they have worse credit. The practice should be illegal. But this is the wrong place to rant about that...

My friend works on the ER I interviewed at, and he gets along very well with the head manager. I'll see if he can get an honest answer out of her. Right now he's in a little trouble for restraining a patient a little too forcefully (it's a very tough ER) so he's going to let that cool off for a while before he asks.

Also, two ICUs and an oncology unit are available. They just posted those positions Friday. I'll see if I can get an interview on one of those units, but right now I'm really just considering working at a manor. I think it would be way easier to get a job there. ICU nursing is not specifically what I want to do but it would look great on a resume to transfer over to the ER.

employers are under NO obligation to tell you why they didn't hire you.....continuing to pursue this will mak eyou look staulkerish....creepy. Don't take these rejections personally, although I know it's hard, for the other candidates might not have been new grads and relatives for all you know. Many managers will follow through the interview put you through the paces and still decide to hire the pretty blonde.

I would distance your relationship with the friend that was a "little rough"....you know the adage... birds of a feather flock together? Some ED's are hesitant to hire EMT's/paramedics right out of school for street creds as a medic DO NOT play over onto nursing and the "Been there/done that" demeanor...however unintentional is NOT received well. A new paramedic RN in the ED has to be very careful for there are things they are allowed to do as a medic that you CNA"T do as a RN...it's challenging. Maybe this department had a bad experience with an EMT in the pat.

Don't just go to the manor.....I presume LTC, that will NOT endear you to acute nursing...it just may make it harer. Take any acute position whether or NOT it's your "love"...new grads are SELDOM hired in the ED. Get your foot in the door. Do not be choosey. Get some hospital creds and you might find your entry into the Ed a smoother process.

mclennan, you're making this to be much more dramatic than it actually is. I'll lay low for at least a few weeks, then consult people who actually know me and her instead rather than this message board. If my contact in the hospital inquires for me, it will be brief and friendly. He knows her very well. I won't contact her again.

Steph, thanks for sharing. I'm sorry to hear that.

We've given you advice, and you don't want to take it. I think asking for your thread to be closed is actually a good idea. It will prevent you from getting more advice on how continuing to pursue the nurse manager is a FLIPPING BAD IDEA.

Don't just go to the manor.....I presume LTC, that will NOT endear you to acute nursing...it just may make it harer. Take any acute position whether or NOT it's your "love"...new grads are SELDOM hired in the ED. Get your foot in the door. Do not be choosey. Get some hospital creds and you might find your entry into the Ed a smoother process.

The manor I applied to and visited today is also a rehabilitation center which offers physical, occupational,a nd speech therapy as well as subacute services (tracheostomy care, respiratory management, wound care, IV antibiotics, etc), what do you think of that? Would it be a wise idea to continue volunteering as an EMT during this time?

Right now I need money and some type of experience. I would not be against working med-surg as my first hospital job and then transferring to the ER later if required.

That manor sounds like a LTC facility, your run of the mill nursing home. If you want to work in a rehab setting that is more like a hospital you actually want to apply to rehabilitation hospitals that treat SCI, TBI, stroke, etc. on a regular basis instead of getting the 70 y.o. knee replacement for a couple weeks along with the "regular" LTC clientele who also benefit from regular PT/OT/ST because they are aging and in a steady rate of decline and inability to care for oneself. If the youngest resident they have is in their 60's you are likely in LTC/SNF instead of "rehab".

Do yourself a favor and find an actual rehab hospital where you are working on more life skills and teaching than just doing med passes. In a rehab hospital you will be teaching patients how to care for themselves once they are back home and working on ADL's such as dressing, toileting, grooming, etc. You will likely have wound care, IV abx, possibly trached patients, many caths (on an SCI floor intermittent cathing is done as often as every 4 hours), teaching patients how to cath themselves if they will be cathing long term, etc. There are a ton of other things I haven't listed as well. In a true rehab hospital patients are in PT/OT/ST for a minimum of 3 hours a day, sometimes more. In the rehab hospital I was at patients were usually gone 4-6 hours a day! Each unit had a recreational therapist and on the SCI unit there was a daily class that they attended all about life with a SCI (covered everything from community resources such as paratransit to sexuality and relationships).

If I were you I would stay away from manors/LTC/SNF and apply at rehab hospitals, LTAC (long term acute care) hospitals, and any unit in a regular acute care hospital. Get your foot in the door somewhere to gain experience so that down the line you can move into an ED/ICU position if that is what you truly desire. Manors/LTC/SNF just doesn't provide enough acute experience to transition nicely back to an acute care hospital.

Good luck!

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