NG tube in an intubated patient

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Just wanted some advice....recently had a resp arrest come thru the doors....we did all the stuff (intubation, ekg, ivs, meds, blood work, foley, NG)....it was early that morning and there were two of us over there in the critical area. The other nurse was primary and i was tasking all the stuff. I placed the NG tube and we auscultated for placement. I was listening when she pushed the air and didn't hear anything (it was loud with the monitor going off, the coordinator and doctor trying to get ICU bed for this patient, etc) and we tried again. I told the other nurse i still didn't hear anything...she pulled back on the syringe and we got what looked to be gastric contents. She determined that we were in but THANKFULLY, didn't hook the patient up to suction because she was going to CT...never hooked the patient back up because from CT they went straight to the ICU. doc gets a call from the radiologist that the NG is in the trachea.

My question is....what could the contents have been?? It was a large amount because we pulled back almost 30 ml of brown yucky "gastric" looking contents. Could the tube have become displaced during the transition from the stretcher to the CT table?? Has anyone ever had something like this happen? What are some tips for apparently placing the tube correctly?? And of course i got called into the coordinators office to discuss with the coordinator and the next in charge and the doc which really made me feel like the biggest crap-ola loser nurse of the world. Advice??

:eek:

Specializes in ED.

So I may sound stupid.... but I usually have trouble placing OG tubes, it almosy always coils in the mouth for me. I can get an NG no problem. Is there some secret technique? I seem to have better luck if I can manipulate the angle of the head, sometimes I just cradle the head with my hand and place the OG/NG with my right hand.

Any tricks to placing an OG that I don't know? I usually use a 14F for NG and a 16/18F for OG, depending on pt size and mechanism of injury.

Specializes in ICU.
So I may sound stupid.... but I usually have trouble placing OG tubes, it almosy always coils in the mouth for me. I can get an NG no problem. Is there some secret technique? I seem to have better luck if I can manipulate the angle of the head, sometimes I just cradle the head with my hand and place the OG/NG with my right hand.

Any tricks to placing an OG that I don't know? I usually use a 14F for NG and a 16/18F for OG, depending on pt size and mechanism of injury.

Put the tip in some ice water for a minute, it will become more stiff and less likely to coil.

Something to also remember is the cuff on an ETT does not keep things out. The cuff is only inflated to a minimal leak or just enough of a seal to help with ventilation. It also does not prevent aspiration. Many cuffs have been damaged by NG or OG placement and have required an ETT replacement. Also, as part of VAP recommendations per the CDC, OG is preferred to NG.

per Altra:

...good luck getting past the cuff if everything is correct, and an OG is much less risky re: infection than an NG

Is the coordinator a critical care trained nurse? Has she ever placed a NGT on an intubated fresh code with vomit in their lungs? What is wrong with everyone these days? This Calling in to offices and raking people over the coals.....this blame game baffles me.

Right?!?!? Thank you!

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