license to breed - page 2

ER nurses can understand the frustrations of dealing with children placed in harms way by the adults who are supposed to be the caregivers. This doesn't tell the whole story. I read the original more... Read More

  1. by   S.T.A.C.E.Y
    From CNN.com

    BOSSIER CITY, Louisiana (AP) -- A couple whose baby's toes were gnawed off by a family pet will accept a deal from the prosecutor and plead guilty to improper child supervision, their attorney said.

    Under the agreement, Mary and Christopher Hansche would plead guilty to misdemeanor charges of improper supervision of their child, perform community service, attend parenting classes and give up their pets -- a pit bull puppy and a ferret.

    The charge carries up to six months in jail and a $250 fine.

    They will remain jailed until the January 3 hearing and a judge will decide if they do more jail time after that, as well as who gets custody of the baby girl.

    Public defender Pam Smart told KTBS-TV she met with the Hansches on Friday and they agreed to plead guilty in the case.

    The Hansches were arrested December 7 after they woke up and saw that one of their pets had gnawed off four of their month-old daughter's toes. The couple had been asleep on a mattress on the floor with the infant in a carrier next to them.

    Mary Hansche, 22, said the ferret did it. Police said Christopher Hansche, 26, thought the dog was responsible.

    The animals will be offered for adoption rather than be euthanized, Bossier Parish District Attorney Schuyler Marvin told the news station.

    Marvin said he believes there were enough mitigating circumstances in the case to offer a plea agreement, with conditions. "I certainly don't think they had the intent to cause harm to their child," Marvin told KTBS. "A lapse in judgment, I think, is what happened."

    The baby was released from the hospital this week; she and her 2-year-old brother are now in the care of a grandparent.
  2. by   weirdRN
    There are lots of people who just should NOT breed. Ever. Then there are those who should only breed under the strictest supervision.

    I wrote a paper as a freshman in college arguing that men and women should not be allowed to procreate until they had met certain criteria. However there are too many liberals bleeding hearts who think everyone should be allowed to do what ever makes them happy for that kind of program to be initiated.

    I HATE to see the very young old and helpless mistreated, but it happens everyday and there is often little that can be done about it.
  3. by   grammyr
    The differing stories make me wonder if the parents were even at home when this happened. Just makes me sick that some people can spit out babies without any idea how to take care of them while others live their whole lives trying to have one and cant.
  4. by   babynurselsa
    Grammy, more likely scenario is that HE likes the puppy, She likes the ferret.
  5. by   TrudyRN
    Quote from rn/writer
    Frustration and amazement are okay the first time around. But after mom has been told (and SHOWN by the bad result) that feeding corn chips to a toothless infant is not a good idea and she does it AGAIN, anger makes quite a bit of sense. Yes, someone needs to take a further look into the circumstances, but giving a baby such inadequate care is just plain wrong, regardless of the contributing factors.

    Reasons are not excuses. This baby still needs decent care and protection from stupidity.

    Of course she does. I can understand anger for a moment. But anger as the overriding emotion is not helpful. As I said before, education is the key. That and a good tubal ligation.
  6. by   TrudyRN
    Quote from WhimsieRN
    There are lots of people who just should NOT breed. Ever. Then there are those who should only breed under the strictest supervision.

    I wrote a paper as a freshman in college arguing that men and women should not be allowed to procreate until they had met certain criteria. However there are too many liberals bleeding hearts who think everyone should be allowed to do what ever makes them happy for that kind of program to be initiated.

    I HATE to see the very young old and helpless mistreated, but it happens everyday and there is often little that can be done about it.

    Whimsie, who's watching the watchers?
  7. by   weirdRN
    Quote from TrudyRN
    Whimsie, who's watching the watchers?
    Good Question. Have you ever read A Brave New World?

    Seriously. Our society as a whole would be better off with a LOT of education in a lot of places.

    But then again, it is the same old story: Not enough hands to do the work. And Profit is always more important than doing the Right thing.
  8. by   SaderNurse05
    Quote from babynurselsa
    I can hardly understand it either Trudy. I always got my infants the Gerber corn chips on the baby food aisle. They keep them right next to the teething biscuits.

    me too!
  9. by   CHATSDALE
    these stories are ridiculous, an 8 y/o child knows better than to treat a baby like this
    the sad thing about this is that they [the authorities] have given the baby and 2y/o sibling to the grandmother who raised one of these brain missing parents..they should have been placed for adoption where their chances of being returned to families would have been erased
  10. by   wincha
    Quote from tvccrn
    Irregardless of which pet did this, I have some questions.

    What was the baby doing on the floor in a car seat all night?


    tvccrn
    There are times when a baby would sleep in a car seat in the parents room. When the baby has a cold or has reflux are a couple of reasons. This doesn't defend the fact an animal attacked this baby. Thats horrible!
  11. by   tvccrn
    Quote from wincha
    There are times when a baby would sleep in a car seat in the parents room. When the baby has a cold or has reflux are a couple of reasons. This doesn't defend the fact an animal attacked this baby. Thats horrible!
    I would put the baby, in the car seat, IN the crib, but not on the floor. Not unless I was awake and watching.

    tvccrn
  12. by   gonzo1
    When my son was about one year old I read a story in my local paper. The woman was sueing our local police dept for killing her dog after they were called to her house because her dog had killed their baby. She was upset because she said she could have another baby, but nobody would ever be able to replace her "doggy", he was special.
    My son is 24 now and I have never forgotten that story. By the way the judge dropped the lawsuit against the police. Hopefullly this woman didn't "pop" out any more babies. Now days the woman would be prosecuted for child endangerment along with the dog being shot, but back then these things were still considered "unfortunate accidents", thank God times have changed.
    Last edit by gonzo1 on Dec 27, '06 : Reason: added more info
  13. by   adnstudent2007
    When my daughter was an infant, she slept in a car seat on my floor at night for a few months (we did NOT have any animals running around our house at the time). We had a crib, but she (and her parents!) slept better this way and I have never hear of an argument against it. I tried once to put it in the crib but was to scared that if something were to happen she could get trapped between the car seat and the bars of the crib. If babies can travel in a car safely for hours at a time, why not sleep in them at night?

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