ER Nurse is Being a JERK to EMS... - page 4

One of our ER nurses has been just UGLY to all of our EMS people over the past couple weeks. No matter what EMS brings in and no matter what EMS does she finds fault with it. She is refusing to... Read More

  1. by   Footballnut
    Two weeks, huh? What happened a couple of weeks ago? She needs to deal with whatever happened in a more adult manner. Perhaps someone (hopefully a superior) could probe this a little and guide her out of this little funk before she kills someone.
  2. by   TraumaNurseRN
    Quote from Iam46yearsold
    Oil and water and vinegar make a wonderful salad dressing. Who says we are not there doing the same job. I thought we were there to take care of patients. Not massage our delicate egos.
    I have followed your responses in numerous threads.....you are EMS...find a EMS site....go away! You have a bloated attitude about yourself....!
  3. by   Penelope_Pitstop
    Quote from traumanursern
    i have followed your responses in numerous threads.....you are ems...find a ems site....go away! you have a bloated attitude about yourself....!
    just who has a bloated attitude about himself/herself?

    hmm...

    you know, techs post here also...should they find a tech site?

    *~jess~*
  4. by   Medic09
    Quote from traumanursern
    i have followed your responses in numerous threads.....you are ems...find a ems site....go away! you have a bloated attitude about yourself....!
    i don't suppose that in your blind animosity you noticed that her specialty areas listed are all in-house?

    nursing specialty: er,icu,l+d,or
    years exp: 23


    and that she is an rn-bsn? doesn't lend much credence to your position when you don't have the facts, eh?

    honestly, where do you get off making that comment? wasn't that a bit out of line? and should all of us who've kept our ems credentials leave, then? maybe this should be a site for 'pure nurses' only. no mudbloods or underlings allowed, eh? (quick nod to ms. rowling, there...)
  5. by   Penelope_Pitstop
    Quote from medic09
    maybe this should be a site for 'pure nurses' only. no mudbloods or underlings allowed, eh? (quick nod to ms. rowling, there...)
    a slytherin-esque nursing forum...hahaha.

    please don't forget the blood traitors...nurses who marry emt/paramedics!



    *~jess~*
  6. by   Iam46yearsold
    Quote from TraumaNurseRN
    I have followed your responses in numerous threads.....you are EMS...find a EMS site....go away! You have a bloated attitude about yourself....!

    Bloated, I don't know where that came from. Right field maybe. No I am a nurse. I have dated many EMS over the years. Does that automatically make me EMS.
  7. by   SDS_RN
    In our ER we really appreciate our EMS and I have not once witnessed anything other than respect for them. Our EMS is great when we get slammed w/ a lot of traumas they dive right in and help. They are amazing and are compitent in what they do.
    To remove a pts IV or c-spine is just crazy. I would definatly have gone above the NM if nothing was being done about that sort of situation.
  8. by   AirforceRN
    Quote from TraumaNurseRN
    I have followed your responses in numerous threads.....you are EMS...find a EMS site....go away! You have a bloated attitude about yourself....!
    I think somebody needs a nap.
    The only people that are not allowed on this site are those under the age of 13. I'm pretty sure 46 is older than 13. Everyone else is welcome.

    -1 TramuaNurseRN
  9. by   vamedic4
    Quote from Roy Fokker
    I got really short with a transport crew last week (nursing home pt. We were absolutely balls-to-the-wall divert, Long story).

    Anyway, it wasn't their fault at all (ummm, they don't get to decide whom to transport, yes?) By the time I got done assessing the pt., I felt really bad for treating them discourteously.

    Luckily, they came by again in a couple hours to do another transport and I apologized to them in person. They told me not to worry about it and that it was all old news anyhow.

    Still felt guilty though :imbar


    But this nurse? Sheesh! She needs to be talked to or counseled about her "hard to work with" attitude.

    cheers,

    As a (former) EMS professional, it has been my experience that your willingness to apologize to the EMS crew says a lot about you, Roy. I'm sure they felt better after that - I know I would have. If not, it just serves as further evindence to separate everyone, for one to profession to villify the other. TraumaNurseRNs comments do enough of that it seems. Perhaps this is why EMS professionals call nursing "going over to the Dark Side!" Can we stop being objectionable?

    There's nothing like giving report to someone who doesn't respect you enough to be courteous to you, it's not as if field providers have things any easier, and those of us who work in the hospital need never forget that.

    The OPs thread is disturbing, and I surely would have followed that one up the chain of command...charge nurse, nursing supervisor, manager until I was satisfied with results or saw a change in attitude. None of us is getting any younger, our work's not getting any easier, patients are still sick, and working with that kind of person is bad for morale.

    She needs more than a talking to. She needs an @ssreaming. Or a pink slip. There's no reason for doing such things, and no excuse for attitude like that. Hopefully in the last 6 years since this thread began she's learned a thing or two. It's possible.


    vamedic4
    It's warm here again
  10. by   Iam46yearsold
    I really am a lot older than 13, Thank God.
  11. by   JD228
    Do you have an ethics line you can report her to? Our hospital has an anonymous ethics line, you can report anything/anyone to be looked into further. I too am EMS and work in the ED, the hospital I use to work at did not have a great rapport with EMS but the one I work at now makes it a priority to be pleasant to EMS, even if they did (rarely- screw up) if they didn't do something you think they should have, you call the EMS Liason and they look into it. If a patient does not have a choice of hospitals, the EMS guys/girls will usually come to our hospital because they feel they get treated with respect and we have free cookies and soda for them, that never hurts!!! It makes working together much easier if you smile and get along. It also works well for the hospital because they have increased revenue. It is a win-win situation.
    She needs a wake up call and if your manager wont do it, someone above her/him should. It is impacting patients. Why should their c-spine be at risk or why should they be stuck again?
  12. by   Pacman RN
    Am I reading your response correctly? I hope I'm not, because that would be unfortunate. For years there has been an animosity amongst EMS and RNs. As I make the transformation from paramedic of 30 years to new ER nurse, I was hoping to help cross that great divide.
    Will I always be looked at as pre-hospital and never truly a member of the crowd because that's my origin? Will I be shunned by EMS because I jumped ship and went to nursing? I hope I can be both, nurse and paramedic... If someone is not causing a problem why not allow them here. The exchange of ideas can only foster understanding between EMS and nursing. I urge you to consider communicating with EMS. They can learn from us... and believe it or not, we can even learn from them. For one, we can learn from their devotion. They do a hard, often thankless job for little and in some cases no pay at all. Would we get up and do what we do every day for as little as 10.00 an hour?
  13. by   GilaRRT
    Quote from Pacman RN
    Am I reading your response correctly? I hope I'm not, because that would be unfortunate. For years there has been an animosity amongst EMS and RNs. As I make the transformation from paramedic of 30 years to new ER nurse, I was hoping to help cross that great divide.
    Will I always be looked at as pre-hospital and never truly a member of the crowd because that's my origin? Will I be shunned by EMS because I jumped ship and went to nursing? I hope I can be both, nurse and paramedic... If someone is not causing a problem why not allow them here. The exchange of ideas can only foster understanding between EMS and nursing. I urge you to consider communicating with EMS. They can learn from us... and believe it or not, we can even learn from them. For one, we can learn from their devotion. They do a hard, often thankless job for little and in some cases no pay at all. Would we get up and do what we do every day for as little as 10.00 an hour?
    It is an old and frankly boring concept. Something with more originality would at least make things interesting. But, RN versus PM? In reality, I really do not see true animosity among RN's and PM's. I guarantee you, when the fecal matter hits the oscillating device, your fellow nursing colleagues will not give a rip that you were a PM, only that you are among them wading in a sea of chaos.

    As far as the money and your EMS colleagues, why are so many EMS providers looking to the hospital? Why are PM's looking at nursing school? Why did I leave my low paying job as an EMT for the world of nursing? I really like what I did, so it was not about job satisfaction. Can you really blame them/us? Come on, how many PM's are shunning their colleagues for going into nursing? If they have time to be haters, I want to know where they work, because they must have nothing better to do.

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