Does ED have a bad rep for mean nurses? - page 6

I was perusing the posts and this question came to mind. I have worked several different units but my short stay in the ER showed me some of the meanest, bitter, most unhappy RN's I've ever met. Most... Read More

  1. by   Jennifer, RN
    ER nurses are no meaner than nurses on other units. There are nasty nurses on every floor. The ER, however, is a very, very stressful place to work and may push some nurses to the breaking point. Doctors too, for that matter. There is a high level of accountability in the ER when taking care of pts who are severely injured or critically ill and that adds to the stress. Most ER nurses (and techs) develop a twisted sense of humor to deal with the stress, some become bitter and mean. But like I said, thats everywhere (and probably every job). In my hospital, the CCU nurses have a horrible rep for being nasty, but do I think that all CCU nurses are mean? Of course not!!!
  2. by   noelle4
    Quote from Jennifer, RN
    ER nurses are no meaner than nurses on other units. There are nasty nurses on every floor. The ER, however, is a very, very stressful place to work and may push some nurses to the breaking point. Doctors too, for that matter. There is a high level of accountability in the ER when taking care of pts who are severely injured or critically ill and that adds to the stress. Most ER nurses (and techs) develop a twisted sense of humor to deal with the stress, some become bitter and mean. But like I said, thats everywhere (and probably every job). In my hospital, the CCU nurses have a horrible rep for being nasty, but do I think that all CCU nurses are mean? Of course not!!!
    Gosh--I thought this thread died...
    Jennifer,
    First, I never stated all ER nurse are mean, or even ASKED if "all" ER nurses are mean. (Just as your last sentence states about CCU nurses).
    2nd, I realize the ER forum was not exactly the best place to ask this question. Once and for all, it is my personal experience that the ER in my hospital exposed me to some of the meanest most miserable RN's I have ever met. MOST were great tho.
    noelle
  3. by   nickola
    I know this is an old thread, but I was bored tonight.......Just a thought: It doesn't matter if you (or anyone) think you're Miss America or Ugly Betty. Beauty is VERY subjective, beholder, etc. etc. You have to have more than good looks to succeed. Get over yourself. I have worked w/Docs & nurses both that could qualify as models. The fact of the matter is ACTIONS speak louder than words. If you are good you are good, people get over outside appearances in about 2 minutes, and then the test is in your skills & abilities. NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE. "ROCK" the ER?? ROTFLMAO
    Last edit by nickola on Jan 1, '07
  4. by   level1_traumaRN
    I work at my level 1 trauma center and I am a happy/friendly person, or so I've been told. However I feel the ER has turned me into a not so nice person. I can't hardly explain it to you but everyone I work with is that way. I must say I love most everyone I work with but where we are so busy, and SOO much is expected of us as well as people constantly asking "when will i get a room" or "what is goin on with me" or "when will i get out of this hallway" things like this over and over every day just get to you. Then you have the traumas that come in like pediatrics, that can ruin your whole day or week for that matter. It just depends about what is goin on around you :-)

    i love being an emergency nurse though and i wouldn't change this experience for the world :-)
  5. by   noelle4
    hi trauma RN,
    You come across as a caring person, and I'm sure you're a very good nurse.
    You're young and starting out in one of the most volatile RN positions there are. I'm not sure you've worked other units before but just let me say this:
    patients ask the same questions on almost all floors in teaching hospitals (except of course, the hallway questions--altho I've seen an occasional pt wind up in the hallway on other floors
    My point is, I don't think it's fair that ER nurses use the excuse "We see so much crap everyday--it gets to us, and it we become not so nice sometimes."
    That's BS. Nurses in general see terrible things EVERYDAY. You deal with it, or change professions or transfer if it gets to you. I know veteran ER/ICU RN's who would never use that excuse for being rude or mean to anyone!!
    BTW--the younger ER nurses were very accepting of me, helpful, and seemed happy to have me there. They weren't the problem.
    Good luck to you and keep up the good work you do!
    noelle
  6. by   noelle4
    Quote from nickola
    I know this is an old thread, but I was bored tonight.......Just a thought: It doesn't matter if you (or anyone) think you're Miss America or Ugly Betty. Beauty is VERY subjective, beholder, etc. etc. You have to have more than good looks to succeed. Get over yourself. I have worked w/Docs & nurses both that could qualify as models. The fact of the matter is ACTIONS speak louder than words. If you are good you are good, people get over outside appearances in about 2 minutes, and then the test is in your skills & abilities. NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE. "ROCK" the ER?? ROTFLMAO

    Glad I gave you a good laugh!!
  7. by   EmerNurse
    I'm not mean - not at all. In fact, I get accused of being "so sweet" to the patients and folks ask how I do it. I tell 'em I took drama in junior high! hehe!

    Seriously, I'm focused and intent at work and perhaps that may seem to some folks as stand-offish or "mean". But it really only means that my mind's on what I have to get done for a patient and I'm focusing on that. Even when I'm interrupted in the middle of something, I try to be nice, but I do admit that occassionally I may sound shorter than I meant to.

    ER nurses that I've met are not mean but they may be focused and trying to juggle 15 things at once. That's what we do and it's not easy. As for the "if you saw what we see..." excuse, I can see where that comes from. If I say "oh great, it's XYZ in the ambulance, c/o chest pain AGAIN that ONLY morphine will fix, let me real quick list her allergies from memory..." in a slightly less than bubbly tone of voice, that's not mean, it's just reality.
  8. by   level1_traumaRN
    Quote from noelle4
    hi trauma RN,
    You come across as a caring person, and I'm sure you're a very good nurse.
    You're young and starting out in one of the most volatile RN positions there are. I'm not sure you've worked other units before but just let me say this:
    patients ask the same questions on almost all floors in teaching hospitals (except of course, the hallway questions--altho I've seen an occasional pt wind up in the hallway on other floors
    My point is, I don't think it's fair that ER nurses use the excuse "We see so much crap everyday--it gets to us, and it we become not so nice sometimes."
    That's BS. Nurses in general see terrible things EVERYDAY. You deal with it, or change professions or transfer if it gets to you. I know veteran ER/ICU RN's who would never use that excuse for being rude or mean to anyone!!
    BTW--the younger ER nurses were very accepting of me, helpful, and seemed happy to have me there. They weren't the problem.
    Good luck to you and keep up the good work you do!
    noelle
    Thanks. I'm not trying to use the excuse "we see so much crap everyday". I am nice to all my patients, some people are like "why are you so nice???" haha but you know I treat everyone the same. I never want to get out of ER nursing...it just seems like that is everyone's excuse you know "we see the same thing everyday" and it's the truth but I guess it's not a great excuse.
  9. by   Djuna
    I have found in my years of experience the meanest nurses were in the medical wards, sorry to any medical nurses out there, I realise the job is hard work.
  10. by   LeahJet
    Quote from noelle4
    My point is, I don't think it's fair that ER nurses use the excuse "We see so much crap everyday--it gets to us, and it we become not so nice sometimes."
    That's BS. Nurses in general see terrible things EVERYDAY. You deal with it, or change professions or transfer if it gets to you. I know veteran ER/ICU RN's who would never use that excuse for being rude or mean to anyone!!


    I'm afraid I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree.

    I have worked on Med-Surg, CCU, and neuro-ICU. Nothing will wear your patience down like people that don't need to be in the ER. They are usually the ones that give you the most crap.
    If a patient gets to the floor, they usually have to have met certain criteria to be admitted. In other words, they NEED medical care. I can take care of PIA patients and deal with their families a whole lot more if I know they are sick and truly need to be in the hospital.

    Let me add.... there is no excuse for being rude to patients. I am not condoning that at all. I am just giving a reason why the ER burns nurses out more.
  11. by   Jennifer, RN
    I used to work on the floor, and there was this one iv nurse that was always so mean and nasty when you had to call her. After I tranferred down to the ER, I found out that she was going to transfer too and I thought "oh great!!!". But in the ER, she is the nicest, most helpful nurse. She will bend over backward to help a coworker out. And what a great resource to have in the ER!
    My point is, there are mean nurses everywhere, most of the time, I have found that the meanness is situational or personal, not necessarily where the nurse is working. I don't think working with trauma or critical pts makes a nurse mean. We do see the worst of the worst, we see the pts before they are cleaned up, tubed, medicated and sutured, and deal with their hysterical families and friends. But, most ER nurses come to the ER because they want the drama and excitement of the "horrible" things that come in. Most of the nurses that I work with in the ER are able to take care of those horrible traumas and then talk about it, sometimes even joke about it, and go to the next pt without blinking an eye. The nurses that can't do that usually don't last in the ER.

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