Do you have to deal with these? - page 3

do you have to deal with poo,pee and vomit in the ER if you're a RN? a PA? a NP? if yet, on a daily basis? just wondering. if this question sounds weird, dont mind me :rolleyes:... Read More

  1. by   nursestudentx
    Quote from LPN1974
    Another thought.....surely you could find a few hours on one day, somewhere that you could shadow a nurse.
    Call your local hospital and see if they could make some arrangements for you to do this.
    I bet they could find a fantastic nurse who would be willing to take you in and show you some of the ropes.
    Before you make any serious comitments to a program you REALLY need to do some further investigation. You are very young and have alot of time yet to make decisions.
    Do this for yourself. I think you would be surprised at how much grit you might find in yourself.
    what you nurses told me scares me already. all those stories from that link above freaked me out i dont even want to shadow a nurse now :uhoh21: but it would be a great idea to do so. ill maybe look into it
  2. by   nursestudentx
    oh and btw..im turning 19 this yr! i think i scrolled down on my mouse roller thing and it maked 85 instead of 86..oops
  3. by   gwenith
    If you are looking at nursing on the mistaken belief that it will be "easier" to study than pharmacy then you had better look elsewhere. The nursing course is every bit as tough to get through and then some.

    We are not an "Easy option" profession in any way shape or form.
  4. by   nursestudentx
    Quote from gwenith
    If you are looking at nursing on the mistaken belief that it will be "easier" to study than pharmacy then you had better look elsewhere. The nursing course is every bit as tough to get through and then some.

    We are not an "Easy option" profession in any way shape or form.
    no i dont think the nursing classes wiill be a breeze. not all all. but you had to admit that pharmacists and optometrists take more science classes than RNs. they're doctors..
  5. by   nursestudentx
    what other medical jobs are there besides nursing? i have to admit that i love the job security the most about nursing. and the salary isnt bad, though i think nurses deserve more for what they do and put up with to help the sick :uhoh21:
  6. by   gwenith
    Quote from nursestudentx
    no i dont think the nursing classes wiill be a breeze. not all all. but you had to admit that pharmacists and optometrists take more science classes than RNs. they're doctors..
    They are NOT doctors!!!

    I suggest you do an online search and really look at some of the course outlines. I would also spend some time reading the threads in the nursing student forums if you really want an idea of what this is about.
  7. by   nursestudentx
    Quote from gwenith
    They are NOT doctors!!!

    I suggest you do an online search and really look at some of the course outlines. I would also spend some time reading the threads in the nursing student forums if you really want an idea of what this is about.
    they're not? i always thought they were..just not physicians. i did do enough reading thank you. it's not the studying that im worried about. like my dad said, there is no such thing as an education that you cant handle because it's too hard. you can't handle it because you're too lazy. of course im going to have to put in a great amound of effort in nursing school but i've heard from this girl who's studying to become a pharmacist that she's thinking about changing her major into nursing because the pharmacist courses are just getting too hard for her :uhoh21:
  8. by   nursestudentx
    my number one reason for choosing nursing i think is the job security. i thought once i become a nurse all i have to do is work hard and well and i do know how to sympathize for sick people and im not so cold hearted that i would ignore their pain when my job is to help them feel better. i know lots of people who graduated from UCLA, HARVARD, etc and are jobless because they chose not so helpful majors or careers that are too competitive for their own good. this is not how i want to become and my parents would hate to see me that way

    i would love to become an interior decorator but ive never decorated any rooms in my life and that career is very competitive and you have to constantly search for jobs or go into a large company that has many clients. i dont want to spend years and years just building up my work reputation. and who knows if im even good at decorating. my room doesnt look that bad though :hatparty:
    Last edit by nursestudentx on Apr 17, '05
  9. by   nursestudentx
    do ADN nurses have to deal with these too?
  10. by   Dixielee
    Quote from nursestudentx
    do ADN nurses have to deal with these too?
    ADN nurses deal with the same thing as any other kind of nurse. RN's, LPN's deal with the same stuff, regardless of their basic education.

    You mentioned job security......the reason for job security is there is an acute nursing shortage, the reason for the shortage is it is getting harder and harder to get people to consider doing this kind of job. It is not easy to get into nursing school, it is not easy to get thru school, don't kid yourself. It is not easy staying in school because of the demanding workload. It is not for the faint of heart or the lazy! Finally, it is not easy to be a nurse. Your first few years are filled with fear of failure. Read some of the threads started by new nurses and the trials they have faced. Many don't make it. I think if you spend a little time reading thru many of these threads you will get a good idea of what nurses actually do.

    You say you do not have time to shadow a nurse to really find out what to expect. Will you have time after you have spent years of school persuing something you know nothing about and may not even like? You say time is running out....dear, you are still very young. You do not even have a grasp on the concept of time. Do the groundwork, do the research, do yourself a big favor and figure out what you want to do before you blast forward. If you have to take a semester off to work in the medical field, you would get a better idea. If your parents are footing the bill, they would be better off letting you figure out what route to take, than to let you struggle and taking needless classes. Tell them of your confusion. They are only trying to help you sort this out.

    My children are grown and would have never considered nursing. My daughter has her Masters in interior design and works for a large firm in NC. My son works for Verizon phone company and his specialty is computers/tech support. Both a far cry from nursing, both requiring completely different career tracks.

    There is no hurry to grow up. It took my daugher a while to figure out what she needed to do, but once she found her niche, she excelled in it. You can too once you find something you are passionate about. You just need to explore more options.
  11. by   LPN1974
    Any service type job that you go into you're going to have to study and work hard at it. It's going to require alot of study and alot of work at doing the job.
    I'm sure pharmacists and optometrists don't sit on their butts all day either. Teaching would also be a difficult job. Teachers today have waaay too much to deal with and not enough pay.
    But now listen, unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, and most of us weren't, you are going to have to work at something, to make a living.
    You're going to have to grow up sometime and decide what you're going to do and make that your goal for life.
    I'm not trying to be mean, you just sound really young, and naive.

    CNAs are Certified Nursing Assistants. They take a course or a class, maybe a couple of weeks long, and become licensed to give care to sick people in hospitals or nursing homes.
    They assist people with their needs, they help them bathe, in some cases they have to totally bathe the patient as the patient is unable to do so by himself. YOu would have to bathe women OR men, totally, even their most private parts. EVERYthing has to be washed. You could be washing off poop, pee, blood, or vomit.
    They assist them with their eating and drinking, toileting needs, brushing their teeth, getting up into a chair, or walking down the hall. CNAs learn to take vital signs, that means blood pressure, temperature, respirations, and they may have to count and figure up how much a person eats or drinks in a day. You would be taught how to do all this in CNA class.
    Anything that YOU personally do for yourself everyday for your own personal hygeine, eating, toileting, well.....patients have to have that also in hospitals and nursing homes. They just have to have help, in most cases. SOME people don't...they are totally self care, and all you do is take them their towels/wash cloths and they bathe themselves, toilet, brush their own teeth.
    But that is generally what a CNA does......is assist the patient with anything he/she needs. It ain't glamorous either but it's CORE nursing. If you could take that you MIGHT have a chance at being a nurse.

    And BTW, you do spend quite a bit of time here on this board....are you ABSOLUTELY sure you could not take some time, says 8 hours one day and shadow a nurse in a hospital???

    I'm going to be very honest with you....you don't seem to have ANY idea at all about anything that nurses do.....if I were you, before I made any committment to any nursing program I would make me some arrangements and find myself a willing nurse and shadow her for at LEAST a day, maybe more than a day. You said something about a working in a clothing store?
    I know you can't be working 24 hrs/day. There has to be some time somewhere, maybe on a weekend?
    And that's another thing.....nurses work 24 hrs/day 7 days/week.
    As a nurse you might be working LONG hours, on a shift you would hate.
    I'm not trying to discourage you...just giving you all the parts that you might not like, you can't afford to get into it then decide you can't work 12 hours on Saturdays and Sundays. Nurses are needed around the clock.

    I don't know what other job opportunities to tell you about. To make any real money you're going to have to study and work hard. Pharmacy or optometrist, or opthalmologists would make good money.
    Like you said about nurses, they do pretty good, but IMHO, not enough for what they have to deal with. But you could make a decent living at it, especially in a bigger city.
    I am an LPN and I do decent, money wise. But I'm also topped out on the pay scale, probably won't advance much further, but I'm also just about 3 yrs away from retirement.

    I think I would have loved becoming a veterinarian, but I figured that out too late in life.
    Don't get me wrong, I love what I do....I am a Licensed Practical Nurse and I work with the mentally and physically disabled people for the state I live in.
    But I love animals, also, and I think I would have been good at it, but I would also never have had the money to go to vet school. And their training is also very hard and difficult. They also do NOT make the money that doctors do who take care of people.
    But its a rewarding work also, for people who love animals and love to try to help them get well, and get out of abusive situations.

    What kind of careers are your girlfriends going into?
    You know, all I can think of besides nursing, or veterinarians.....have you considered going into Real Estate? Those people make good money, selling houses and other properties. And what about becoming an insurance salesman....they do good.
    And they don't have to clean up poop, pee and vomit.

    If you think you still want to get into nursing......RNs can make excellent money being a travel nurse......they go to different places where they need nurses....to me that would be interesting. But ya gotta be a good nurse and KNOW your stuff. You get into situations without any orientation.....you have to know what you're doing. But for the money and benefits and the ability to travel to different places......to me that would be a great job. However, you would need a good base experience at being a nurse before becoming a travel nurse. I would say you would need at least several years at one job, in a hospital in Intensive or Cardiac Care, Emergency or Medical Surgical Nursing BEFORE even considering travel nursing. And if you are married with children, it might not work for family life, but for a SINGLE person who wants to travel and see more of the world, it would be a great opportunity.

    The military, too, could take you places, and give you some experience. Ever consider that?
  12. by   nursestudentx
    im scared that if i choose a career where there is a lot of competition i will be jobless :chuckle

    and i wrote those posts when i shouldve been sleeping. like at 2am. otherwise i wouldnt have been in front of my computer typing on this forum :stone

    ive read about an ultrasound tech and they seem to make as much as nurses where i live (s. cali) does this career have a great outlook?

    my girlfriends are going into architecture, ped. doctor, lawyer, one person who is also going into nursing but she seems to have no direction in life, pharmacist, dentist, and many who ive lost contact with who i have no idea are doing, probably stuck in a community college not knowing what theyre doing, and so on.

    what do i really want to do? own my own business. but i need money first because my parents are not going to cough up money for me beyond what theyre paying for my car and insurance and my other little bills like cell, etc. :hatparty: actually they pay everything for me and the money that i earn from work all goes to splurging my parents want me to work at least part time though. and that's what im doing right now. and studying full time. dont think i want to take the time to shadow a nurse. working at a clothing store is fun but tiring believe it or not and i want to focus myself on one career and just study my butt off but i have no direction career wise so i feel stuck in one place just doing my GEDs but the GEDs sort of change depending on what i choose as my career/major sooooo i hope im not wasting my time right now. im almost done with first yr of college. yayee.
    Last edit by nursestudentx on Apr 17, '05
  13. by   redwinggirlie
    Ummm, well, yeah.
    Gotta deal with it anywhere in nursing.

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