Any new NPs go directly for DNP? - page 2

I am graduating in a few days, whoo hoo! Of course, I have no license and no job prospects, but have decided not to worry about that immediately. :lol2: I am forging ahead and beginning the DNP... Read More

  1. Visit  Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-C profile page
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    Quote from nomadcrna
    I agree. I will be finishing a DNP this spring and it was pretty much a total wasted of my time and money. If you want research, management, finance and such then you will enjoy it.. I would rather have more clinical education to enhance my skills, make me more competitive with the physicians.
    Various residencies would be perfect; ER, intensivist, oath etc
    Even better would make the first part of the DNP an FNP, then specialize into anesthesia, pees, womens health etc.

    Just my two cents

    Ron
    I'm not sure I'm following your logic. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from your title, I presume you are a CRNA and you entered the DNP program as a CRNA, which means you were already certified as a clinical expert prior to going into the DNP program. Now, what you are saying is that you wish you had more clinical time and specifically clinical time outside of your area of expertise such as ER, womens health ect. within the DNP program. Were you made to believe that the DNP program was not a translation into practice program for previously established clinical experts?

    I'm curious. Did your DNP program purport that it would make you a clinical expert outside of your area of expertise? Did your DNP program indicate that you would have additional clinical training within your present, and certified area of clinical expertise as a CRNA? If you feel you did not have enough clinical hours for your specialize area, is this a concern for your DNP program or for your MSN-CRNA program?
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  3. Visit  linearthinker profile page
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    Tammy, is there perhaps a more professional environment in which for us to discuss some of these details? I have a lot of questions, but weeding through this nonsense is wasting both of our time.
  4. Visit  Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-C profile page
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    Quote from nomadcrna
    This is about as unprofessional as I've seen.
    Her opinion is spot on.

    Ron
    Perhaps you stated in more on point, regarding non-nurse practitioner commenting on advanced nursing practice on another post.

    Quote from nomadcrna
    That is just so ridiculous. Nurses truly are their own worst enemy. First off, why are non-nurse practitioners making decisions about advanced practice, no offense intended.
    Secondly, why do nurses seem to fight to hold other nurses back..
  5. Visit  nomadcrna profile page
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    Actually, I'm dual boarded as an FNP and CRNA.
    Speaking from a CRNA perspective, a fellowship in pain, critical care, peds would be a nice start.
    From an FNP perspective, a fellowship in ER, orthopedics, critical care, hospitalist would all be nice starts.
    We really need to think outside the same box that we nurses have been stuck in for years. We need to step up to the plate and increase our basic education to better serve our patients and move our profession forward. You seem a bit defensive about the DNP. I'm all for it but the educators should listen to what the students want.
    Many, many advanced practice nurses echo what I am saying.

    Ron

    Quote from Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-C
    I'm not sure I'm following your logic. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from your title, I presume you are a CRNA and you entered the DNP program as a CRNA, which means you were already certified as a clinical expert prior to going into the DNP program. Now, what you are saying is that you wish you had more clinical time and specifically clinical time outside of your area of expertise such as ER, womens health ect. within the DNP program. Were you made to believe that the DNP program was not a translation into practice program for previously established clinical experts?

    I'm curious. Did your DNP program purport that it would make you a clinical expert outside of your area of expertise? Did your DNP program indicate that you would have additional clinical training within your present, and certified area of clinical expertise as a CRNA? If you feel you did not have enough clinical hours for your specialize area, is this a concern for your DNP program or for your MSN-CRNA program?
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  6. Visit  nomadcrna profile page
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    There is a difference in decisions regarding actual practice issues and what you would like YOUR education to encompass.
    It is ok to have different opinions but I'm at a loss about the nasty comments and defensive attitudes?
    Discussion about these issues is good, IMHO.

    Ron


    Quote from Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-C
    Perhaps you stated in more on point, regarding non-nurse practitioner commenting on advanced nursing practice on another post.
  7. Visit  tracelane profile page
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    I'm in a DNP program now and will finish May '11.
    You could go straight in but I would say not if you plan to start working as a new NP at the same time. That first NP job is stressful.
    Look at the programs carefully. We were required to have more clinical hours in addition to the classroom time which was a bit strange being an NP already but I have learned from my clinical time. We were able to select clinical experiences in areas where we felt we needed more expertise. For instance, I spent time putting in IUDs and working in a free clinic where I learned more about community resources and funding. I also made sure I spent time with a radiologist.

    The finance classes were a bit rough but I can now hold my own in hospital management meetings. I didn't know how little I knew!
    I love learning and am glad I decided to pursue the degree. It's a LOT of time and work though.
    We have had some spirited discussions in class and I have gained faculty mentors so it's a win/win.


    T
  8. Visit  linearthinker profile page
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    Thanks for the input. I communicated with the director again, and was reassured it would be fine. I'm only planning on working PT anyway. Maybe 1, Hopefully 2, but not to exceed 3 days a week. That should leave me time for residency, fellowship and classwork. I hope. Worst case, Ill have to get a live in governess for the kidlets, lol.
  9. Visit  zenman profile page
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    Quote from tracelane
    Look at the programs carefully. We were required to have more clinical hours in addition to the classroom time which was a bit strange being an NP already but I have learned from my clinical time. We were able to select clinical experiences in areas where we felt we needed more expertise. For instance, I spent time putting in IUDs and working in a free clinic where I learned more about community resources and funding. I also made sure I spent time with a radiologist.

    T
    I don't think the DNP is for me, especially since I now only want to see patients. I think an option for getting more clinical would be to add on more clinical hours in your NP program, after completing the required clinical, and make it in areas where you wanted more exposure.
    zmansc likes this.
  10. Visit  Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-C profile page
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    Quote from linearthinker
    Thanks for the input. I communicated with the director again, and was reassured it would be fine. I'm only planning on working PT anyway. Maybe 1, Hopefully 2, but not to exceed 3 days a week. That should leave me time for residency, fellowship and classwork. I hope. Worst case, Ill have to get a live in governess for the kidlets, lol.
    I wasn't able to do much in the way of any type of work during the last year, but then again, I kind of fast tracked it.
  11. Visit  christvs profile page
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    I honestly am happy I have waited until I have worked as an NP for 4 years and am now starting my post MSN DNP program. I feel I know the clinical part of my job quite well now, but it's only because I have been doing this job for 4 years that I realize my weak areas: health care policy, insurance, etc. This makes me appreciate the required DNP classes way more now that I understand why they are so important versus when I just graduated from NP school

    Christine
  12. Visit  funfunfun550 profile page
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    Is it an "absolute" that a doctorate is going to required as the entry level into FNP come 2015 and if so is that the beginning or end of the year> I just read AACN's white paper ..not sure if its a recommendation or set in stone???
  13. Visit  christvs profile page
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    Not sure if doctorate will be required for future NPs quite yet. I am guessing it will be many years before this actually hapoens

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  14. Visit  praphy profile page
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    Hope you are very happy for that


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