union pro or con

Unions will never solve the problem, only add to the problem. Unions exhibit greed like anyone else. The single most important item on any strike is "PAY" everything else is just smoke.

But lets not forget the extremely high amount of corruption and criminal activity that has plagued the history of union activity in this country. And where is Jimmy Hoffa buried anyway. Does all this corruption become sanctified just because we think it is for our benefit.

Nursing does very well at keeping all of us comfortable. The number of nurses Ive known who have raised their 4 or 5 or 6 and even one I know who f
has raised his 7 children and put them through college. I think that sounds like nursing is successful to me. Nurse who get into trouble are really a small per centage. Everyone else like anything else gets by nicely if they apply themselves. You dont need a union with a history of corruption for that.

Sources for your corruption allegations???? (And not a Chamber of Commerce astroturf press release or a Readers Digest article.)

I know of more than one person who was ran out of an organization by an unethical manger. Employees with long histories of good service to their organization who were not troublemakers and the union saved them.

Corruption in any organization is wrong. (I don't tolerate it in my own local.)

Compare human outcomes for states with a strong union history to those of "Right to Work for less" states. On every outcome the Unions have been the advocates for good schools and access to good health care.

So, the question is, "union pro or con." And your response just doesn't make any sense to me. Oh, I get the fact that you're anti-union alright. But you're trying to taint the whole labor movement because of a corrupt individual? Do you disparage religion because of a greedy pastor or two? Do you disparage government because of a crooked politician?

I don't recall reading a post anywhere in this forum where the author spoke about corruption being of benefit to anyone.

It seems to me that pro-union people are often pro-universal health care.
Doesn't make sense.

"Unions are still one of the best hopes for working people, whether it involves nitty gritty issues like protecting workers against unjust firings or enforcing safer workplaces, or larger concerns like securing more control over the work process or democratizing the entire economy. With the world economy in recession some employers see this as the moment to crush unions once and for all. Now is the moment for unions to build a broad social movement that can advance labor’s vision of a better society, centered on the needs of all working people.

It makes perfect sense. If you're not healthy, you can't work.
According to Professor Michael Yates,


I happen to agree with him. If you don't, go out and enjoy your eight hour day, your lunch break, your weekend and holiday pay, and safer patient care in California, due to legislated standards for safe RN-to-patient staffing ratios. And the fact that there are laws against child labor, unsafe work places, mandatory overtime, and discrimination against women and people of color in the workplace. Courtesy of labor union members' social and political advocacy. You're welcome.

What makes it so great?
Last year managers at the nonprofit hospital hand-­delivered Success Shares of nearly $900 per employee for improvements in patient satisfaction and held rallies with pompons, hot dogs, cheerleaders.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/bestcompanies/2009/snapshots/59.html